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Subject: [Leica] crash safety (was Re: S2 vs. 645D)
From: billcpearce at cox.net (Bill Pearce)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 11:10:57 -0600
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It is very difficult to make these sort of generalized predictions. If they 
were all true, we would only drive Suburbans. But I hate really big cars. 
What to do?

In the last 5 years of testing there have been some unusually surprising 
results. Several quite small cars tested at a very high score, and of 
course, several big ones didn't do so well. And pickups, a large portion of 
what's on the road where I live, will smash anything but isn't something you 
want to be in, in a wreck. And further, Driving a Suburban doesn't do one a 
bit of good if struck by a semi, so buying a big car over a small one really 
doesn't mean a thing; a large sedan over a mini when hit by a Hummer? Isn?t 
worth the trouble and gas.

Me? I'm buying a cement truck.

Bill Pearce

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tomas Szoboszlai
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 8:40 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] crash safety (was Re: S2 vs. 645D)

According to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety:

"The death rate in 1-3-year-old minicars in multiple-vehicle crashes
during 2007 was almost twice as high as the rate in very large cars."

It is the same for single-vehicle crashes:

"The death rate per million 1-3-year-old minis [small cars] in
single-vehicle crashes during 2007 was 35 compared with 11 per million
for very large cars. Even in midsize cars, the death rate in
single-vehicle crashes was 17 percent lower than in minicars."

http://www.iihs.org/news/rss/pr041409.html

Tom Sz.

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Doug Herr <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> 
wrote:
> Chris Crawford wrote:
>
>>Don't believe everything the government tells you. In 2000, I was driving
>>my 1991 Chevy Caprice down West Jefferson Boulevard, Fort Wayne's main
>>east-west road. Speed limit on the highway is 50mph, and I was going close
>>to that when a woman who was high on pot ran a stop light and pulled into
>>an intersection I was passing through. I slammed on my brakes and my car
>>crashed directly into the side of her Ford Tempo, a small car. My car
>>caved in the side of her car and pushed it 50 feet off the road. My car
>>was smashed a bit in the front but was still driveable. I drove it home!
>
> A single anecdote no matter how meaningful to you does little to predict 
> the outcome of future unknown accidents.  We can't predict with 100% 
> accuracy any particular accident, the severity of each one or the outcome 
> of any single event but over time by accumulating data from numerous 
> incidents patterns can appear.  That's what the NHTSA data is supposed to 
> represent.
>
> OTOH if your particular driving habits include a greater-than-average 
> incidence of crossing intersections when someone else is rolling through a 
> stop sign then your anecdote has some value in predicting your future 
> accidents.
>
> Doug Herr
> Birdman of Sacramento
> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>
>
>
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