Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/03/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Not too sure about the free part. According to my BNA country portfolio on Finland, the marginal tax rate (national, local, municipal and church taxes) hits about 50% on income between ?38,000 and 66,000 and is over 55% on income in excess of ?66,000. Then there is a VAT. I'm not going to complain on April 15 this year! Ken On 3/22/2012 2:07 AM, Raimo K wrote: > Well, university education is free in Finland (like all other > education as well). > The Americans may call it socialism (but it isn't), we call it equal > opportunities. > In the future we may have to charge tuition fees from students outside > the EU, though. > All the best! > Raimo K > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: Henning Wulff > To: Leica Users Group > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:20 AM > Subject: Re: [Leica] Fuji X-Pro1 - Jim > > > It's nearly as bad here in Canada. Tuition fees rise well beyond any > concept of inflation. Meanwhile our education minister goes off to > China to promote Canada as a place to come and get educated (for a > price). > > Meanwhile, in the public schools.... > We've just legislation from our provincial government denying the > teachers any pay increases for the next while and at the same time > retroactively taking away a number of hard won limits on class sizes, > help for teachers with special needs students and other advances > achieved in the last ten years. The legislation specifically states > this 10 year retroactive roll back. > > Our premier meanwhile sends her son off to private school. She can > afford it, as the pay raises for all the legislature has been > substantially above the rate of inflation, and about as drastic as the > increase in university fees. > > > On 2012-03-21, at 2:05 PM, scleroplex wrote: > >> exactly!! >> >> everyone is talking about the rise in healthcare costs. >> no one is comparing the rate of rise of higher education costs. >> it is 6 times that of health care! >> >> all the universities are raking it in and putting up flashy buildings >> with >> gay abandon. >> and no one is even looking at abuse of HEFA loans, which is as big a >> scandal as mortgage loans if not bigger. >> >> university boards are packed with real estate developers who get HEFA >> loans >> from the government and spend the money on construction projects. >> >> a good percentage of the loans are also invested in the capital >> markets by >> university endowment funds and multiplied. >> essentially rolling cheap tax money. >> when there is a profit, the university keeps it. >> when there is a loss, it is a public write-off. >> >> nowadays whenever i see students and their parents touring the >> universities >> here in boston, >> i only think, here are the next lot of mugs! >> these are the people who are deliberately left in huge debt, >> which they then concentrate on paying off the next 30 years, >> with no time for the policing of democracy at the local or national >> level. >> >> bharani >> >> >> Message: 16 >> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 09:07:49 +0530 >> From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Fuji X-Pro1 - Jim >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Message-ID: >> <CAH1UNJ1=+AvJ7=jCJXTvdUnRM7o4DyhFqgib_OiKAHsMVxGP4g at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> It is still considered a part of the parent's duty to fully educate >> their >> offspring here in India (I am talking lower middle class and above >> here). >> Of course, there is some self preservation involved, as it is still >> considered a part of the offspring's duty to look after the parents in >> their old age. My parents in law have always stayed with me, and my >> parents >> with my brother - and they have done so for the past 20-25 years. The >> old >> joint family systems have not noticeably broken down as yet, though in >> urban India it is starting to happen. >> >> As far as the USA is concerned, it is my considered view that the only >> bubble that has not collapsed yet is in education - both in terms of >> affordability, and the sheer weight of student loan debt that has no >> chance >> of being repaid. >> >> Cheers >> Jayanand >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > Henning Wulff > henningw at archiphoto.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >