Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/03/30
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Mark, you're still harping on this Zeiss thing? Which you felt the need to spew in response to me trying to sell my ZM Sonnar? I didn't need your damned commentary. I'm selling that lens because I NEED THE MONEY. My offering it for sale wasn't done to commit some fraud, contrary to your ignorant little fantasy. You don't like the ZM lenses? Don't f--king buy one. Otherwise, as the King of Spain said to Hugo Chavez: "?Por que no te callas?" (why don't you shut up?). -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-437-8990 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 Become a fan on Facebook On 3/30/12 10:27 PM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: >People would like to think they can spend chump change on a consumer >product >which will save them 6 grand on the price of an M9. That's what happens in >the Twilight Zone. Not on planet real earth life where mainly about >getting what you pay for. There is no free lunch. A Chevy is not a >Mercedes. >Both are cars. Both have four wheels. After that the similarities are few. > >And when a premium lens company in Germany hires a Japanese film to make a >line of consumer priced lenses using cheaper materials and production >techniques the product is not "just as good" as their own product costing >thousands not hundreds made back in Germany. There's just no way in the >real >world a thing like this is going to happen. Not by luck. Not by fate. Not >by >a hole in the time warp. Not by a close out sale at Wal-Mart. You want >Zeiss? Pay for it. And I can recommend it. As I can recommend Leica. > >-- >Mark Rabiner >http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ > > >> From: Lottermoser George <imagist3 at mac.com> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:10:25 -0500 >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Fwd: 60mm Macro on Fuji X Pro 1 >> >> >> On Mar 30, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote: >> >>> I just wonder how much apologizing I have to do when I doubt a camera >>>which >>> cost 1000 usd and is a smaller format than an M9 gets compared to an >>>M9 as >>> if its going to be a better camera or something. I have to buy the >>>camera >>> first? >> >> No need to apologize for "doubting" Mark. >> I found the "comparison test" simply meaningless. >> Both examples appeared sub par to my eyes. >> >> And I quite agree with you that if I had an M9 >> I'd have no further need for any "relatively small" digital camera. >> In fact I feel the same way about my M8. >> Someone would have to show me something quite "special" >> to compete with the size, weight and capability of the M8. >> >>> I just don't feel like Leica needs to defend itself against cameras >>>which >>> were never meant to compete with it in the first place. >> >> I quite agree. >> Though the "photo world" loves to compare any thing that is about the >>size of >> an M9 >> to the M9 - makes for great headlines - "Is camera X, Y or Z the M9 >>Beater?" >> >>> The price reflects materials and production tolerances. >>> Quality control. >> >> True - and again - agreed. >> >> Though a Timex does keep time very well; >> as does my does my 10 year old Motorola flip phone; >> and my iPad. >> >> And my '93 Saturn gets me from point A to point B >> extremely economically. >> >> Regards, >> George Lottermoser >> george at imagist.com >> http://www.imagist.com >> http://www.imagist.com/blog >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information