Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/03/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Cedric said: >Sorry my fingers slipped over the keyboard of wife's new laptop. It's >probably also because I hate Windows 8. >Thank you for your remark. >Cedric I'm still happily using Windows XP. I checked my options with my son who is a retired computer systems analyst. He is not impressed with Windows 8, either. It appears to me that I may have to check out the Dell "refurbished" sales outlet, to see if I can find a modern machine with Windows 7. "Always a step behind..........." Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cedric Agie" <cedric.agie at gmail.com> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:18 AM Subject: Re: [Leica] From today -> Cedric > You are right. You should read Asph indeed. Apo's are if I remember > special glasses for some types of teles with high compensations > towards the Blue and UV spectrum. They were first made, probably in > Canada, for the US Army. Afterwards Leitz started a successfull > production for the civil market. I heard they give perfect results but > are too expensive for me. > > Sorry my fingers slipped over the keyboard of wife's new laptop. It's > probably also because I hate Windows 8. > > Thank you for your remark. > > Cedric > > > > 2013/3/22 John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz>: >> I think you are mistaking your APOs and asphs? Many more of the latter >> than the former (50/75/90) >> >> john >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> Thank you for the info and analysis Lluis. >>> I think you are right. The new Apo generation is certainly an >>> improvement >>> when used wide open. But is it worth paying double for one more stop? >>> Not for me. In some cases I take a small or heavy tripod. It's >>> astonishing what >>> you can do at night with an M-9 and a tripod. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Cedric >>> >>> 2013/3/22 Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollquerol at gmail.com>: >>> > Dear Cedric, >>> > >>> > Thank you, your details are very interesting, some years ago (film >>> > times) >>> I've compared at different f stops with the camera in a tripod both: >>> Summilux >>> 35 pre asph and Summicron 35 IV, in B&W and in color. IMO the Summilux >>> set >>> at infinity in low light conditions and wide open manages better the >>> flare, at >>> f2 the Summicron is sharper, other differences up to this are in the >>> toning >>> scale reproduction. I color the rendition of the Summilux was smoother >>> than >>> the Summicron, this one produces more contrated colors. When I've >>> purchased my Summicron IV in 1997, the Dealer (Robert White) that the >>> new >>> ASPH was appeared, the price difference was not the matter to decide, >>> I've >>> prefered take the "old" one and I have no complaints. >>> > >>> > The new Summilux 35 Asph is a superb lens, perfect! very expensive and >>> bigger than my old Lux, I'm very happy with it! >>> > >>> > Cheers >>> > Lluis >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > El 22/03/2013, a las 12:51, Cedric Agie escribi?: >>> > >>> >> Dear Lluis, >>> >> >>> >> Thank you verry much for your interesting informations and personnal >>> >> remarks. Comments from a photographer who has a good experience in >>> >> the field is most important to me. Over the years I had several >>> >> Summilux's 35mm M to test but was not alway satisfied with the >>> >> results, having a verry good Summicron 35mm M (made about 1972-1973) >>> >> and a Summaron 35 >>> >> f:2.8 M. I know these 2 well because I enlarged a lot of pictures in >>> >> B&W and color myself up to format 30X40 cm with both my Focomat IC >>> >> and IIC. In my opinion both lenses are equal at the same openings, >>> >> except >>> >> f/2 of course. >>> >> >>> >> When I made this remark to a good old friend at Leitz Wetzlar at the >>> >> time he smiled largely and agreed discreetly. >>> >> >>> >> So recently I received this Sumilux 35mm M I mentionned. I know this >>> >> lens perfectly because my friend took most of the 35 mm pictures of >>> >> ou marriage with it. >>> >> I personally teached him color photography and chemistry in his >>> >> personnal darkroom. I never saw any difference with my own Summicron, >>> >> be it in B&W or color. >>> >> He showed me several pictures taken with this lens with Kodachrome in >>> >> low light in an obscure cathedral. Simply razor sharp so to say. I >>> >> made no mistake in buying this lens. >>> >> >>> >> When he bought himself the latest Apo Summilux 35mm M he was so >>> >> enthousiastic with the results he gave me his own Summilux 35mm M. I >>> >> will never regret it. First results with my M-9 look excellent both >>> >> in B&W and color. >>> >> >>> >> Thank you again and kind regards, >>> >> >>> >> Cedric >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> 2013/3/21 Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollquerol at gmail.com>: >>> >>> Hi Cedric, >>> >>> >>> >>> According to the S/N my lens was made in 1983. I like very much this >>> lens, with film (B&W) it gave me very rich range of grey with very nice >>> smooth contrast, at f 1.4 is not a very sharp and contrasted lens, but >>> for me it >>> does his job, I like too that it is very small. Compared with the >>> Summicron 35 >>> (IV) this one is more sharp and contrasted, it is also a lens I like >>> very much. >>> With the M8 the Lux 35 perform particularly well, it is the usual lens I >>> have >>> always attached. I'm not a technical man in the sense that I don't take >>> care >>> about many technical concepts, what I'm interested is how the lens shows >>> the atmosphere I like in my pictures. If I compare it with the Summilux >>> 50 >>> (year 1967) the 50 is better wide open or at high apertures, it is more >>> "crispy". >>> >>> >>> >>> Probably every one of us has different motivations to find with a >>> >>> lens, for my own use I'm very happy with my older lenses >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks for looking ad for your kind comment! >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Lluis >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> El 21/03/2013, a las 11:20, Cedric Agie escribi?: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I like your color and B&W pictures Lluis. I noticed you used a pre >>> >>>> Asph Summi 35 M wide open. >>> >>>> Could you tell me when it was made (probably according to its >>> >>>> serial >>> n?)? >>> >>>> I have one myself. It's one of the first that is in pristine >>> >>>> condition and that gives perfect pictures. >>> >>>> And since differend series were made in the pre Asph era I'm much >>> >>>> interested by the results you got and the experience you have with >>> >>>> it. >>> >>>> According to a good Leica relation I heard not all Summis were >>> >>>> always equal. Older Pros gladly accepted the Summi 35 M but didn't >>> >>>> really trust the one in 50mm. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Regards >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Cedric >>> >>>> >>> >>>> 013/3/21 Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollquerol at gmail.com>: >>> >>>>> Thank you Jim, I think so but on these cases I wait sometime to >>> >>>>> decide >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Cheers >>> >>>>> Lluis >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> El 21/03/2013, a las 00:44, Jim Nichols escribi?: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> Lluis, >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Nice work. I have to pick the color image in this case. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Jim Nichols >>> >>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lluis Ripoll" >>> >>>>>> <lluisripollquerol at gmail.com> >>> >>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 5:43 PM >>> >>>>>> Subject: [Leica] From today >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> First all my apologies to different messages about Barcelona, we >>> have at home our grandchildren, this is a really joy, but also it is >>> difficult have >>> free time. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Shoot today, initially I was sure about the color version, once >>> >>>>>>> I've >>> do the conversion to B&W I like both, for this reason I share both. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Color >>> >>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/L1030560.jpg. >>> >>>>>>> html> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> B&W (conversion with Silver Efex Pro 2) >>> >>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/L1030560BN.jp >>> >>>>>>> g.html> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Leica M8, Summilux 35 pre asph Wide Open >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome, >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Saludos cordiales >>> >>>>>>> Lluis >>> >>>>>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >