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Subject: [Leica] Leica vs. Fuji - focus….
From: scottgregory at mac.com (Scott Gregory)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 11:14:41 -0400
References: <CD85A99B.7B3E%mark@rabinergroup.com> <09FB4530-4729-4D96-BCBD-023032F2E374@gmail.com>

Well said Steve!

Scott



On 2013-04-10, at 10:20 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:29 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
>> I think its obvious it would be foolish for not a very rich person to blow
>> seven grand on a camera unless its a major passion for them which they 
>> have
>> obviously devoted a major piece of their time to. Leisure time or 
>> otherwise.
>> So why make apologies for not wanting to buy the latest M?
>> Me I've never spent a third that much on a car.
>>> 
>>> However I do agree with the punch line:
>>> " is Fuji the new Leica?
>>> In my opinion, NO - Leica will always be Leica. These are 2 different 
>>> camera
>>> systems and brands... Owning a Leica is much more than owning a camera 
>>> or a
>>> tool to take pictures with. You'll get a hand crafted camera with soul. 
>>> It is
>>> a lifestyle and everyone who ever owned a Leica knows what I try to say. 
>>> "
>>> Is a Bic a poor mans bargain basement Montblanc?
>>> No they are both pens. Other than that they have nothing in common.
>>> Is a Chevy a poor mans BMW?
>>> Ditto.
>>> Fuji: Leica?
>>> Ditto.
>>> Just because a camera is not a DSLR does not mean it has much anything 
>>> at all
>>> to do with Leica.
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photography
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> 
> I agree with most of what you say Mark, but not the conclusions.
> What you can do is shoot with both of the cameras, Fujifilm EX1 or XPro 1 
> and the Leica M9, compare the two experiences, the photographic results, 
> the images you produce, especially with respect to the ease and accuracy 
> of focus....then you will see why the yield of well focussed results with 
> the Summilux 75mm 1.4 and the Noctilux wide open on the M9 is so low. Only 
> then will you understand why the Fuji cameras are thought so highly of, 
> and why at roughly 20% of the cost of a Leica they are doing so well. 
> Owning a Leica is wonderful, I do own several, I aspired to this for most 
> of my adult life...but Leica has to get their act together and come up 
> with a system that can accurately focus reproducibly, under the hardest of 
> circumstances, to stay competitive in the real world. Otherwise,  they 
> will continue to be expensive collectors items and museum pieces that fail 
> where it counts, and they will again and again get sent back to Solms by 
> frustrated shooters to accomplish the im
> possible, which is to adjust them to focus under the most trying 
> circumstances, as well as in others, blindly.  The only way to focus 
> reliably in all circumstances is to see what you are focussing on. A blind 
> mechanical linkage will not do it.
> 
> I hope the newest breed of M cameras can measure up to these stringent 
> demands.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
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In reply to: Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Leica vs. Fuji - interesting short blog - COMMENT)
Message from steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] Leica vs. Fuji - focus….)