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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Studio fashion
From: scottgregory at mac.com (Scott Gregory)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 21:50:20 -0400
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Thanks Geoff, appreciate the details with the setup lights. Glad you 
mentioned about the wireless being no problem as I'd like to try that 
sometime with the M9. 
Scott


On 2013-04-10, at 7:25 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks to those folks who looked and took the time to comment on and off
> list and especially to Bob for thoughtful critique. I'll be posting quite a
> few more from the series as I develop them. I don't think that anyone else
> is posting this kind of work on this list. Maybe its not a great fit
> socially here. I shoot and show lots of other stuff of course
> 
> For Phong and Scott:
> The portrait is with "clamshell lighting" or "over under" if you like. Here
> specifically a beauty dish with diffuser angled from front above and a mid
> size soft box that is angled up from low to nearly fill all of the shadowed
> areas. Both on very low power and in very close.The beauty dish is less
> soft than the soft box but still wraps around. The idea is to have a lot of
> light in there and very flattering skin tones especially for beauty.
> 
> The M9 works perfectly with wireless transmitter and manual setting to
> synch.Since these are typically stopped right down I've found that the dSLR
> I got for the AF is really no faster at all to use. Framing convenience and
> operating speed for file saving/processing of course still goes to the
> dSLR. No surprise which system has the very best optics on the front.
> 
> I've read commented that only photographers count catch-lights! Probably
> for the same reasons that we put our noses in very close to large prints
> ;-)
> 
> The full length shot is using the same beauty dish light (angled down from
> the side) as the main and the fill from body height into the shadows from
> opposite. A third light with a small reflector onto the background for that
> even plain shadowless look. I guess this is closer to catalog than
> editorial. I'm interested in showing the beauty of these young women in
> flattering light.
> 
> For Bob:
> Thanks for the links too.
> I've been following some instruction locally in workshops from a talented
> and successful Aussie photographer whose work I admire, Peter Coulson and
> from tutorials from Scott Kelby.
> 
> I love window light for portraiture and I promise I'm still committed to
> the shadow side.
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/son
> Here I'm just trying different things (beauty and fashion leaning) and I
> want people to look and think, wow that is a beautiful young woman. This is
> all meant to be gentle and soft light everywhere
> 
> I can do drama and shadowed forms (well I'm learning there as well). I just
> mainly post Leica shots on this list.
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/ann
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/mel
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *If you want to take more interesting pictures,
> stand in front of more interesting stuff* -- Joe McNally
> 
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> 
> 
> On 11 April 2013 02:34, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Nice models, but you really need a pro camera to capture them correctly;
>> try an S2... ;-)
>> I think your portrait photography could benefit from watching these two
>> videos. The first is about classic lighting (hey, gotta learn the rules
>> before you break them);
>> 
>> http://www.sekonic.com/classroom/webinars/classical-posing-and-portrait-lighting.aspx?utm_source=Lyris&utm_medium=eBlast&utm_campaign=Sekonic%2BWebinar%2BInvite%2B3%2F21%2F13
>> 
>> The other is a bit broader in application:
>> 
>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2nNxaBA6ss>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2nNxaBA6ss
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Though you have exposure down and shadow highlight areas, I think you need
>> to make the light tell your story. More shadows to highlight the subject
>> you want me to concentrate on. The shadows should not only direct but
>> provide pleasing form to emphasize the viewers experience to what you want
>> it to be. In essence I think your images are too flat. For example you 
>> name
>> one Eyes. But the light doesn't direct me there. The lighting is pretty
>> much the same in all. Needs more shadows to tell your story. Otherwise 
>> it's
>> just nice exposure of pretty people with basic lighting skills. I want 
>> more
>> drama!!
>> 
>> All with good intentions,
>> Bobb
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> second look from a new shoot at home with a new to me model, Courtney
>>> M9 & Elmarit M 90
>>> 
>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/149615259
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *If you want to take more interesting pictures,
>>> stand in front of more interesting stuff* -- Joe McNally
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Geoff
>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9 April 2013 22:01, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> First look from a new shoot at home with a new model today.
>>>> M9 &Summilux 50 ASPH
>>>> Sorry Ted I used 3 twinkie lights!
>>>> 
>>>> <http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/149597285>
>>>> 
>>>> *If you want to take more interesting pictures,
>>>> stand in front of more interesting stuff* -- Joe McNally
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Geoff
>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Bob Adler
>> 
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