Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/05/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I am sure most of you are sick of this, I am tilting at the windmills. But here's another example close to (my) home: as you may know, in Silicon Valley, a lot of tech workers are Chinese and Indians. Also a small number of firms are founded by Chinese and Indians. And of course we know some of the biggest firms, in China, Taiwan, India are owned by Chinese and Indians. So guess how many Chinese and Indians executives or board of directors are there in Tech firm not founded by Chinese or Indians. If your guess is less than the number of your fingers in your hands, you are correct. Please Nathan, Mr. Rabiner, and Lew, explain it to me how this happens. Thank you. On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>wrote: > BTW, for examples of color blindness, look no further than Hollywood > movies. USA is 10% Asian-Americans, ~20% Latino and climbing, and almost > 20% African Americans also - but you cannot tell that from the movies. Are > they all racists. No, I wouldn't say that. > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Richard Man <richard at > richardmanphoto.com > >wrote: > > > As I said before, I am wondering if there is a case of color blindness, > > and this is only in the context of someone who photographs at least 2-5 > > rolls everyday in NY / LA on average. > > > > I might very well be wrong in the observation, but isn't it interesting > > that people jumped onto the "I am accusing a great man for being racist" > or > > that "other artists did not paint Asians" either. > > > > No one has actually said, gee, no, Winogrand does not have a case of > color > > blindness, you are just making a mountain out of molehill. I'd accept > that, > > but no, we have Mr. Rabiner accusing me, and Douglas and you jumping on > the > > bandwagon.... > > On May 9, 2013 6:15 AM, "Nathan Wajsman" <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote: > > > >> Richard, you are being a bit disingenuous here. If you were only "making > >> an observation", then might I ask why you felt that this particular > >> observation was relevant? I have no idea if Winogrand was a racist or > not, > >> but clearly your "observation" is only relevant in that context. So > don't > >> pretend that there was no deeper meaning behind your "observation". > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Nathan > >> > >> Nathan Wajsman > >> Alicante, Spain > >> http://www.frozenlight.eu > >> http://www.greatpix.eu > >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > >> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ > >> > >> YNWA > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On May 9, 2013, at 6:29 AM, Richard Man wrote: > >> > >> > Mark, did you read everything I write? I made an observation. Viewers > of > >> > his exhibit can judge for themselves about my observation, which once > >> again > >> > is "few photos in his exhibit have people of colors, and exactly one > >> Asian > >> > that we can find." I am not accusing him of anything. Anyone can > >> confirm or > >> > refute my observation. The exhibit is still open and you can purchase > >> the > >> > book for $50. > >> > > >> > May be it;s the curator and has billions of photos of African American > >> in > >> > his vast quantity of negatives, but this exhibit does not show it. > >> > > >> > You are making accusation, I am not. Please have some restrain that > you > >> > speak of. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at > >> > rabinergroup.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Have you seen his Rolodex? > >> >> Because it really appears you are accusing Garry Winogrand of racism. > >> >> And you don't know much about him. > >> >> The idea that he'd have any problem with having people of color in > his > >> >> frame > >> >> is patently absurd. > >> >> When one makes slights against a someone's personal integrity some > >> >> restraint > >> >> in in order. Even if that person is not a towering figure of a > >> particular > >> >> type. In this case a photographer who dedicated his life to capture > the > >> >> world around him and who did it with some success. > >> >> Is this a controversy? > >> >> Has anyone in the history of the world ever said anything about the > >> color > >> >> of > >> >> the people the great Garry Winogrand photographed? OF COURSE NOT. > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > > -- > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto