Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/05/19

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Subject: [Leica] Fuji choice and Leica
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler)
Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 13:39:10 -0700
References: <F3184F1C-B5C6-4607-A7EF-8CE07374C8CA@mac.com> <A32464F7-83CA-43A8-A6E5-6375B791A1DF@frozenlight.eu> <CA+yJO1CDA1j0arXrb4yV+TMOdy9kc93SH4e5zozkCwypUgGq1w@mail.gmail.com> <80F9701439F20347874CE5E4E03C22E9C54DD80E@WHIZZMAIL02.whizz.org> <187C4151-0957-490C-A80F-089376063D84@gmail.com> <80F9701439F20347874CE5E4E03C22E9C54DDC02@WHIZZMAIL02.whizz.org> <CAAsXt4Meif3wNScufbmUwOBZQA5He=Gor8gQPQQeOhW6b6jujQ@mail.gmail.com> <80F9701439F20347874CE5E4E03C22E9C54DE6E3@WHIZZMAIL02.whizz.org> <2D240B99-C971-4163-B6A1-A17173A1ED6B@gmail.com> <91E6FAC3-F8C4-4BFE-B312-CF9B1E3CD407@btinternet.com> <FE763A6C-C734-4A2C-9409-77A2AB612CE1@gmail.com> <80F9701439F20347874CE5E4E03C22E9C54ED109@WhizzMAIL01.whizz.org> <CAAsXt4NGWcFaaiavFEn5Ka3UJHoRMov2gBRFQ7uo_BLM-K2TWQ@mail.gmail.com> <80F9701439F20347874CE5E4E03C22E9C54EE45E@WhizzMAIL01.whizz.org>

Just pure speculation on my part...
No other reasonable explanation, IMO, for a company trying to make a buck...


On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 1:19 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> 
wrote:

> So an issue with production other than (lugs withstanding) the few which
> have been released? There also seems to be issues with the 50mm APO
> production, only about 50 are thought to have been made so far!
>
> john
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > On Behalf Of Robert Adler
> >
> > I tend to agree with Steve. They seem to be producing next to nothing (if
> > not nothing at all). My guess is the few trickling out are the ones with
> > the strap lug fixed whose original owners were either given some of the
> > original, post strap M's or who wanted a refund.
> > Something serious has happened, IMO, and production has simply ceased
> > until
> > they figure it out. Good that they are not sending out until right; bad
> > that they set expectations and aren't saying why expectations aren't
> being
> > met.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 12:54 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > There are a few people who have used the camera quite heavily for the
> > past
> > > few months, the only thing I have heard is about the white balance....
> > >
> > > Of course it should not have happened, but at least Leica put their
> hand
> > > up in public and admitted it and also covering any damage to camera or
> lens
> > > resulting from it. It only seems to be some of the original production
> run
> > > so either a person or a component was at fault, the plus and minus of
> hand
> > > assembled cameras ;-)
> > >
> > >  I don't think Nikon have ever admitted to problems with the LHS AF
> points
> > > in the D800 range, they will fix it if you send the camera to them.
> Same
> > > for dirty sensors on the D600? X-100 lens assemblies...
> > >
> > > ;-) john
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On May 19, 2013, at 3:05 AM, Frank Dernie
> > <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The two dealers I regularly use have neither had any cameras yet,
> and
> > > can
> > > > get no info from Leica as to when they may receive their first.
> > > > > I have placed an order but have pretty well decided to cancel it
> for
> > > the time
> > > > being.
> > > > > The Fuji (which I bought at about the time I ordered the M) is
> getting
> > > the
> > > > job done and the M saga is very much worse than the M9 in my case so,
> > as
> > > an
> > > > engineer, I am somewhat concerned that they are having major
> > > > manufacturing difficulties, something like parts supply or component
> > > quality
> > > > variation.
> > > > > Getting one in 12 months may be a better choice for me.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have heard that the problem is far graver than strap lugs being
> loose
> > > (which
> > > > they could accomplish 75 years ago), this is an $8000 camera guys...
> > > >
> > > > (for pete's sake)
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > FD
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 19 May, 2013, at 03:01, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at 
> > > > > gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Friday I was actually within 100 metres of 3 M's ( the 2
> dealers
> > > here are
> > > > only 5 doors apart) so I can claim to have actually have seen one
> (demo
> > > not
> > > > for sale at the boutique) and each dealer had one awaiting customer
> pick
> > > up.
> > > > Oz actually only got these first ones two months after USA, Europe,
> Japan
> > > > and probably Outer Mongolia for all I know. I suppose that means they
> > are
> > > > post strap lug fault production. This is getting old waiting though.
> My
> > > original
> > > > order was six months ago.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Cheers,
> > > > >> Geoff
> > > > >
>
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-- 
Bob Adler


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