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Subject: [Leica] Mark's +2 and be there - thanks
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 00:32:40 -0400

Are you saying F stops different for different format?


On 5/19/13 5:35 PM, "Philippe Amard" <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> wrote:

> 
Thanks for the calculator


Now, +2 might be +1 on micro 4/3s, and plus zero
> on 2/3 
> 


Amiti?s
Philippe




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Message du :
> 19/05/2013 23:08
De : "Mark Rabiner " <mark at rabinergroup.com>
A : "Philippe
> Amard" <philippe.amard at sfr.fr>
Copie ? : 
Sujet : Re: [Leica] Mark's 5.6 and
> be there - MARK II


 Yea I got a thing on my computer for that
> now
http://imaginatorium.org/stuff/stops.htm

And two stops down from f1 is
> f2.
Summicron.

And stopping down to 5.6 is 5 stops.
What I think of as f22
> being.


On 5/19/13 5:01 PM, "Philippe Amard" 
 wrote:

> So you're back at it
> :-(
> 
> 
> nocti 0.95 stopped down two = ?
> telyt 560 f5.6 stopped down two
> = ?
> 
> 
> Both serious lenses, primes and on topic.
> 
> 
> Ph
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Message du : 19/05/2013
> 22:44
> De : "Mark Rabiner " 
> A : "Leica Users Group" 
> Copie ? : 
> Sujet
> : Re: [Leica] Mark's 5.6 and be there
> 
> 
>  If you've looked at those lens
> test charts they used to always had in Pop
> and Modern photography monthly
> for decades we all did a lens always get a
> bit better contrast and
> resolution stopped down two or three. Its just the
> nature of optics.
> Now
> we hear that with some of our four grand $ Leica glass "there is no
> reason
> to stop down it all" I kind of think its horse crap.
> A lens going to improve
> stopped down a bit. The fact that it says Leica on
> it and cost four grand
> has no way of changing that.
> You wanna use the meat of the lens. There is
> fatty residue in the outside
> parameter best cut off by the butcher.
> 
> 
>
> On 5/19/13 12:16 PM, "Lew Schwartz"  wrote:
> 
>> Also, aren't a lot of 35mm
> lenses supposed to be sharpest at 4.0 - 5.6?
>> 
>> -Lew Schwartz
>> 
>> 
>>
> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:29 AM,
>  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you
> Marshall,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> this was known to me and actually sounds more of an
> urban legend adressing
>>> trainees or freshmen PJs than anything else.
>>>
> 
>>> 
>>> In addition it doesn't explain why Mark a contemporary
> experienced
>>> professional photog who has published in the NYT, insists on
> shooting 5.6
>>> and be there whatever the format.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> :-(
>>> 
>>>
> 
>>> Philippe, still willing to learn :-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
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>>> 
>>> Message du : 19/05/2013
> 06:11
>>> De : "Marshall Hunt "
>>> A : "Leica Users Group"
>>> Copie ? :
>>>
> Sujet : Re: [Leica] Mark's 5.6 and be there
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  It is a
> modification of a motto from the early days of press photography,
>>> when you
> needed three hands and big pockets to use a Speed Graphic.
>>> :
>>> "f.6" set
> your Speed Graphic lens at 5.6 so you have some depth of field
>>> when you
> estimate the distance.
>>> 
>>> "and be there" be at the scene of the action;
> otherwise you can't get a
>>> fast shot.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, May 18, 2013 at
> 3:25 AM,
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Mark repeatedly writes:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> F 5.6
> and be there.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> What's YOUR rationale for shooting at
> 5.6?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If it is about DoF it is completely
> irrelevant for it also depends on
>>>> sensor size, but this you know.
>>>>
> 
>>>> 
>>>> So what is it please?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> AMiti?s
>>>>
> Philippe
>>>> 
>>>> 
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