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Subject: [Leica] Mini Me M release
From: zoeica at mac.com (Chris Williams)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 18:39:19 -0400
References: <CDDCE4F9.B539%mark@rabinergroup.com> <A2788677-6FE9-4BA6-9C9F-A0F65B3EC2F1@mac.com> <08692697-DC1B-4A98-8A00-942D210AF690@mac.com>

I agree marketing the "mini M" was a bit misleading but I highly doubt Leica 
will make a full frame interchangeable lens camera for under $5k. I don't 
think Leica is concerned about the X Pro 1 market. 

M9's are under $4700 used. 


Chris Williams
504-231-6261
www.zoeicaimages.net

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On Jun 11, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Scott Gregory <scottgregory at mac.com> wrote:

> Chris I think a lot of folks were hoping for a body with interchangeable 
> lenses similar to an xe1 or x pro 1. Not everyone can afford the $7 and 
> $8000.00 high end. 
> 
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> On 2013-06-11, at 2:36 PM, chris williams <zoeica at mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> Oh just go create images!
>> 
>> Leica has a M-E,Monochrom & M 240. Fucking hell that's a pretty good line 
>> up. Who cares about the rest?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chris Williams
>> www.zoeicaimages.net
>> www.zoeica.com - blog
>> Washington DC & New Orleans 
>> 504-231-6261
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 11, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>> 
>>> Steve Huff mentioned in the first thing that he'd rather go out and get a
>>> Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX1 full frame for roughly the same bucks.
>>> I certainly agree and I'm sure that opinion will end up being the
>>> consensus.
>>> Tests will show the pix coming out of the Sony wiping the smaller format 
>>> but
>>> same priced Leica right out of the water.
>>> 
>>> Also the issue is which camera LOOKS more elegant
>>> And I think its a tossup.
>>> The Zeiss in front of the Sony is not so compact but is overwhelmingly
>>> GORGEOUS. As is its inner design. Making us feel as we could take a great
>>> shot of ANYTHING. with the images would prove us right.
>>> The glass in front of the Leicas is certainly not going to appeal to
>>> connsiouers of any ilk.  And the people with the big bucks are gonna 
>>> wanna
>>> know what the people in the know in the photo department think before the
>>> pick out their latest classy photo neckwear. A lot of them.
>>> 
>>> So we're going to have the company which makes the walkmans winning the
>>> compact camera war with the company which makes the best cameras. Leica.
>>> A huge thing for Sony. A huge not so good thing for Leica.
>>> 
>>> Shooting with the Sony would be a far more exciting and rewarding
>>> experience.
>>> And this kind of thing should belong to Leica.
>>> Its like coming in second on purpose and having your pretending you won
>>> speech all written out ahead of time.
>>> "don't look at the camera behind the mirror"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 6/11/13 9:41 AM, "Ric Carter" <ric at cartersxrd.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> sounds like a replay of my Leica Z2X
>>>> 
>>>> which feels decidely unLeica
>>>> 
>>>> ric
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 11, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Scott Gregory <scottgregory at mac.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Mark I totally agree. What are they thinking?
>>>>> 
>>>>> A total let down.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Scott
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2013-06-11, at 9:30 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Putting a zoom on an X does not as Leica specifically stated put it 
>>>>>> between
>>>>>> an M and an X. 
>>>>>> it put it between an X and a  Panasonic Lumix.
>>>>>> Super bad thinking on the part of Leica.
>>>>>> Not a step up from an X but two steps down.
>>>>>> The stock holders will be happy about the lowering of the Brand.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Whenever the classic point and shoots, Contax T, Nikon T, Ricoh GR, 
>>>>>> Minox 35
>>>>>> finally sold out with a zoom model which of course brought in the big 
>>>>>> bucks
>>>>>> from the idiot crowds they were widely ignored and reviled by the
>>>>>> connoisseurs; it was not good news.
>>>>>> A fast unobtrusive and elegant camera became slow and bulgy.
>>>>>> It was "time to make some money and pay some bills" news.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Instead of a drum roll Leica needed to sneak this out with a whisper. 
>>>>>> While
>>>>>> everyone was on vacation.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ... A few of the famous film super compact 35's never came out in zoom
>>>>>> versions. The Rollei 35 was one and I think also the Minox 35.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6/11/13 9:01 AM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Very sad. 
>>>>>>> They said it would be an M.
>>>>>>> but instead its an idiot X.
>>>>>>> for people with more money than sense.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> They will look like they are shooting with a real Leica.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Normally a thing rushed out like this I'd not believe for a second 
>>>>>>> but the
>>>>>>> fact that he's giving the UPC code of the camera as 799429184308 and 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> UPC
>>>>>>> code and price  and code of all the accessories it does sound like a 
>>>>>>> non
>>>>>>> rumor. But a leak. And I'm fond of leaks now having seen the 
>>>>>>> Wikileaks
>>>>>>> movie.
>>>>>>> Or they are good at making up  lists UPC numbers.
>>>>>>> I'm crossing my figures its a sick joke or a bad dream.
>>>>>>> 
>> 
>> 
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