Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/06/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]X Pro 1 market being a cheap rangefinder with a crop sensor. Not Leica is not going near that. They've stated that a long time ago. They didn't even want the M8 to be cropped. On 6/11/13 6:39 PM, "Christopher Williams" <zoeica at mac.com> wrote: > I agree marketing the "mini M" was a bit misleading but I highly doubt > Leica > will make a full frame interchangeable lens camera for under $5k. I don't > think Leica is concerned about the X Pro 1 market. > > M9's are under $4700 used. > > > Chris Williams > 504-231-6261 > www.zoeicaimages.net > > Sent from my iholga > > > On Jun 11, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Scott Gregory <scottgregory at mac.com> wrote: > >> Chris I think a lot of folks were hoping for a body with interchangeable >> lenses similar to an xe1 or x pro 1. Not everyone can afford the $7 and >> $8000.00 high end. >> >> >> Scott >> >> >> On 2013-06-11, at 2:36 PM, chris williams <zoeica at mac.com> wrote: >> >>> Oh just go create images! >>> >>> Leica has a M-E,Monochrom & M 240. Fucking hell that's a pretty good line >>> up. Who cares about the rest? >>> >>> >>> >>> Chris Williams >>> www.zoeicaimages.net >>> www.zoeica.com - blog >>> Washington DC & New Orleans >>> 504-231-6261 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 11, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote: >>> >>>> Steve Huff mentioned in the first thing that he'd rather go out and get >>>> a >>>> Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX1 full frame for roughly the same bucks. >>>> I certainly agree and I'm sure that opinion will end up being the >>>> consensus. >>>> Tests will show the pix coming out of the Sony wiping the smaller format >>>> but >>>> same priced Leica right out of the water. >>>> >>>> Also the issue is which camera LOOKS more elegant >>>> And I think its a tossup. >>>> The Zeiss in front of the Sony is not so compact but is overwhelmingly >>>> GORGEOUS. As is its inner design. Making us feel as we could take a >>>> great >>>> shot of ANYTHING. with the images would prove us right. >>>> The glass in front of the Leicas is certainly not going to appeal to >>>> connsiouers of any ilk. And the people with the big bucks are gonna >>>> wanna >>>> know what the people in the know in the photo department think before >>>> the >>>> pick out their latest classy photo neckwear. A lot of them. >>>> >>>> So we're going to have the company which makes the walkmans winning the >>>> compact camera war with the company which makes the best cameras. Leica. >>>> A huge thing for Sony. A huge not so good thing for Leica. >>>> >>>> Shooting with the Sony would be a far more exciting and rewarding >>>> experience. >>>> And this kind of thing should belong to Leica. >>>> Its like coming in second on purpose and having your pretending you won >>>> speech all written out ahead of time. >>>> "don't look at the camera behind the mirror" >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6/11/13 9:41 AM, "Ric Carter" <ric at cartersxrd.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> sounds like a replay of my Leica Z2X >>>>> >>>>> which feels decidely unLeica >>>>> >>>>> ric >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 11, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Scott Gregory <scottgregory at mac.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Mark I totally agree. What are they thinking? >>>>>> >>>>>> A total let down. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Scott >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2013-06-11, at 9:30 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Putting a zoom on an X does not as Leica specifically stated put it >>>>>>> between >>>>>>> an M and an X. >>>>>>> it put it between an X and a Panasonic Lumix. >>>>>>> Super bad thinking on the part of Leica. >>>>>>> Not a step up from an X but two steps down. >>>>>>> The stock holders will be happy about the lowering of the Brand. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Whenever the classic point and shoots, Contax T, Nikon T, Ricoh GR, >>>>>>> Minox 35 >>>>>>> finally sold out with a zoom model which of course brought in the big >>>>>>> bucks >>>>>>> from the idiot crowds they were widely ignored and reviled by the >>>>>>> connoisseurs; it was not good news. >>>>>>> A fast unobtrusive and elegant camera became slow and bulgy. >>>>>>> It was "time to make some money and pay some bills" news. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Instead of a drum roll Leica needed to sneak this out with a whisper. >>>>>>> While >>>>>>> everyone was on vacation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ... A few of the famous film super compact 35's never came out in >>>>>>> zoom >>>>>>> versions. The Rollei 35 was one and I think also the Minox 35. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/11/13 9:01 AM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Very sad. >>>>>>>> They said it would be an M. >>>>>>>> but instead its an idiot X. >>>>>>>> for people with more money than sense. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They will look like they are shooting with a real Leica. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Normally a thing rushed out like this I'd not believe for a second >>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> fact that he's giving the UPC code of the camera as 799429184308 and >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> UPC >>>>>>>> code and price and code of all the accessories it does sound like a >>>>>>>> non >>>>>>>> rumor. But a leak. And I'm fond of leaks now having seen the >>>>>>>> Wikileaks >>>>>>>> movie. >>>>>>>> Or they are good at making up lists UPC numbers. >>>>>>>> I'm crossing my figures its a sick joke or a bad dream. >>>>>>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/