Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/06/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi Tina, That's why you need a good shop as others have suggested. They should be able to ask you relevant questions (budget, what kind of monitor, etc) and work out the details for you. If you have a friendly local geek who you can drag along to interpret for you, that's even better. If you can't find a local custom PC shop, buy a high end pre-build. You can always add more SSD/HDD one way or another. John is correct in that anything with the latest i7 will be way faster that what you have today. I really think a higher end pre-built is best for you. The build quality is better. The new Mac Pro looks really good from the specification perspective. There are small companies who specializes in PC gaming machines which will have similar specs (without the rather garish light effect) but I have no idea who they are these days. The issue for me in your place will always be support. Who is gonna to fix your PC when it breaks? Can you get 1 or 2 day turn around? Are they going to stand behind their PC if you get a dud? [Apple does have a store in Charlotte :)] Regards, Spencer On Jun 11, 2013, at 19:12, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote: > See!! That's what I mean. It is totally too complicated for someone who is > not a computer guru and only wants to process old photos from old cameras! > > Tina > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Spencer Cheng <spencer at aotera.org> > wrote: > >> Hi Tina, >> >> With John's list, you will need a decent PC shop. The shop have to refine >> the list based on their experience, how long you intend to keep the PC and >> how hard you intend to use the PC. For example, there are quite a few i7 >> variants. RAM is pretty boring these days. Everyone makes SSDs these days >> with different prices, size, read speed, write speed, built-in cap, and .. >> and.. >> >> Oh, you probably have to tell them the resolution and bit depth you need >> for your monitors so they will install the right graphic card. >> >> Don't take it to Best Buy. >> >> Regards, >> Spencer >> >> On Jun 11, 2013, at 17:02, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote: >> >>> That's the kind of list I need. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Tina >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 4:37 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> >> wrote: >>> >>>> Any box builder will build you: >>>> >>>> Multi-core i7 CPU >>>> 32GB RAM >>>> Motherboard with NIC and 8x USB3 ports >>>> 3 or 4 internal SSD >>>> Graphics card with two outputs >>>> A case you like with suitable sized power supply >>>> >>>> You muddy the waters with ' two calibrated monitors and a tablet', the >>>> tablet is just a USB device the monitors are self-contained and just >> need >>>> an input. >>>> >>>> You are unlikely to ever get a ' We promise that we won't come out with >>>> anything that will make this system obsolete for at least one year' >>>> warranty. Things like SSDs can move from one machine to the next as >>>> computers do not last for ever... >>>> >>>> john >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> >>>>> So why is there not some site that will say: "Here is the best computer >>>>> available for working with Photoshop right now. It has 8 USB 3.0 ports >>>> so you >>>>> can hook up all of your external drives. You can use two calibrated >>>> monitors >>>>> and a tablet. It's fast enough that you can scan and work on panoramas >>>> of 15 >>>>> photos while the routine back-up is happening without slowing to a >> crawl. >>>>> We promise that we won't come out with anything that will make this >>>> system >>>>> obsolete for at least one year." >>>>> >>>>> If my needs are so simple and standard, why are they so hard to find?!! >>>>> >>>>> Tina >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 4:17 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You really have quite simple and standard needs I am afraid, all >>>>>> modern PCs with an SSD will be far faster than your current laptop... >>>>>> >>>>>> john >>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When you click on Customize Yours Now there are way too many choices! >>>>>> If I >>>>>>> add everything I think I need, the price gets to be astronomical >>>>>>> very >>>>>> quickly. >>>>>>> Nowhere does it say how many USB ports there are or any other kinds >>>>>>> of ports. I'm just afraid I will customize a very expensive machine >>>>>>> that >>>>>> is useless >>>>>>> for the way I work! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tina >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:44 PM, John McMaster >>>>> <john at mcmaster.co.nz> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IMO, and with current knowledge, the new Mac Pro is like a very >>>>>>>> (very) powerful laptop.... Current Mac Pro and PCs can fit >>>>>>>> multiple hard drives inside, this machine will need a trail of >>>>>>>> external disks to allow separate scratch, catalog and data >>>> disks..... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What was wrong with the offerings from >>>>>>>> http://www.maingear.com/custom/desktops/quantumshift/index.php >>>>> ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> john >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The reason I'm tempted by the new MacPro is that the work is >>>>>>>>> already >>>>>>>> done. >>>>>>>>> It is a package specifically designed for photographers (or >>>>>>>> videographers) >>>>>>>>> with speed and photo processing of prime importance. If there >>>>>>>>> were a PC already put together with the same attention to >>>>>>>>> photographic needs, I >>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>> go with that. There are just too many confusing choices to make >>>>>>>>> any one >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> which could hamper performance if I made the wrong choice. Even >>>>>>>>> the experts can't agree! I just want something that works when >>>>>>>>> I turn it on >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> doesn't have to be upgraded every 6 months. Right now, I'm >>>>>>>>> waiting to >>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>>> what's coming up in the near future on both platforms. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tina >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 7:03 PM, George Lottermoser >>>>>>>>> <imagist3 at mac.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Tina Manley wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can't do it!! All of my software is PC based - Photoshop, >>>>>>>>>>> LR, Vuescan, printers, Breezebrowser, etc, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have to admit that is one beautiful machine, though. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tina >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Leo Wesson >>>>>>>>>>> <leowesson at gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> MACs have been running Windows software for well over a decade >>>>>>>>>> - without problems. >>>>>>>>>> And this "feature" has only improved steadily along with the >>>>>>>>>> power of the machines; and the homogenizing of the individual >>>>>>>>>> SW programs running. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The current MACs are essentially UNIX machines. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> George Lottermoser >>>>>>>>>> george at imagist.com >>>>>>>>>> http://www.imagist.com >>>>>>>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog >>>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Tina Manley >>>>> http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This e-mail was checked for spam by the freeware edition of CleanMail. >>>>> The freeware edition is restricted to personal and non-commercial use. >>>>> You can remove this notice by purchasing a commercial license: >>>>> http://antispam.byteplant.com/products/cleanmail/index.html >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tina Manley >>> http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > > > -- > Tina Manley > http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >