Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/07/03
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Diane Arbus' subjects definitely weren't se?oritas. Jeffery On Jul 3, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote: > The only problem I have with the way se?orita is used on the LUG is that it > only refers to young, beautiful women - never overweight, ordinary, or > plain women. None of the women in Jim Shulman's fantastic photos are ever > referred to as se?oritas! Se?orita is a perfectly valid Spanish > description of a young woman - every young woman. > > (Se?ora) Tina > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:27 PM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com> > wrote: > >> >> On Jul 3, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Steve Barbour wrote: >> >>> >>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 1:59 PM, lrzeitlin at aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> I've been a semi-invalid for the last week recovering from cancer >> surgery and I've found the last few editions of the LUG to be a good >> substitute for "War of the Sexes." They take out the stiches in a few days >> and I should be back to my usual acerbic self. >>>> >>>> >>>> I personally am appalled at the cultural insensitivity to sexist >> terminology exhibited by many male LUG members. Despite the fact that some >> of us disagree with Tina's excessive regard for Leica equipment, we don't >> refer to her as a senorita... >>> >>> >>> I have to agree that the way senorita is used here on the LUG, I find to >> be disrespectful to women, condescending, demeaning, and >>> >>> ultimately sexist. We don't refer to young men by the equivalent. >>> >>> If one of my daughters were photographed by a LUG member and described >> in these terms, that young lady would certainly not be >>> >>> happy, and neither would her father. >> >> wow. do neither of you feel or understand the appreciation in the use of >> the word "se?orita" on the LUG? >> I certainly would not feel offended by someone referring to my daughter, >> or a photograph of my daughter, as "beautiful young woman." >> >> I certainly understand language and when language is misused. >> Se?orita, >> young woman, >> young women, >> girl (when used for females under 12 or 13), >> les jeunes femmes, >> junge frauen, fr?ulein >> do not qualify as sexist >> in my lexicon >> >> are we to refer to men and women as "persons" (never mention gender or >> age)? >> >> Regards, >> George Lottermoser >> george at imagist.com >> http://www.imagist.com >> http://www.imagist.com/blog >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > > > -- > Tina Manley > http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information