Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/10/18

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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Tina's "Tea Party" reunion propaganda photo
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 16:27:51 -0400

I am very interested in seeing this photo but I think all the url's I'm
trying to  click on are second hand and broken. Could it be re posted the
url? Perhaps one with a TinyURL to ensure non corruption? I'm really dying
to see it.

The Rabs.


On 10/18/13 4:08 PM, "Tina Manley" <images at comporium.net> wrote:

> Larry -
> 
> I posted the photo because I was appalled and scared and chagrined to find
> that my in-laws were all Tea-Party supporters who owned non-registered guns
> because they are convinced that the Muslim president Obama will be coming
> after their guns.  I was surprised that anything in the photo was sharp
> because I was shaking with anger as I took it.  Then I got up and left,
> saying that I would return when there were no loaded guns in the room.  I
> didn't return until the next day when the gun-toting guys were gone.
> 
> I like the photo or I would not have posted it.  It reflects what I saw and
> what I felt at the time.  If it were up to me, all handguns would be
> abolished since their only purpose is to take lives.
> 
> The photo has provoked comment and I'm glad.  It served its purpose and is,
> therefore, a successful photo.
> 
> Tina
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:54 PM, <lrzeitlin at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Don't over react to guns. They are common in rural America. There are far
>> more guns in the US than there are Leicas, Nikon, Canons, and all other
>> fine cameras combined. The gun culture is alive and well not only in the
>> south but in the North West, the mid-Atlantic states and in New England.
>> The next time you take a drive on a cross country highway stop in at a
>> Cabella's or a Bass Pro sporting goods store. You will see enough guns on
>> display to arm a regiment and enough ammunition to stock a medium sized
>> rebellion. Schools are even closed during deer hunting season in much of
>> Pennsylvania. A successful hunt is the key to a well fed holiday season.
>> New York City even hosted the Bannerman warehouse until it moved up the
>> Hudson to Pollopel Island. Bannerman and family were merchants who bought
>> up most of the military surplus from the Civil War, the Spanish-American
>> war and WW I. Most of the world's rebellions until the outbreak of WW 2
>> used Bannerman supplied weapons. My father even had a Sears Roebuck sized
>> catalog of Bannerman's arms available for resale.
>> 
>> When I was a boy the country was much less urban than it is now. In rural
>> communities gun ownership was accepted as a fact of life. Most families
>> owned at least two guns, a shotgun for hunting and a 22 cal. rifle for the
>> kids to plink around with. Most high schools had rifle teams, usually
>> subsidized by the Army. Indeed an armed population was considered the key
>> to national defense. What enemy would attack a country with a well armed
>> citizenry? The NRA, rather than being dedicated to supporting the Second
>> Amendment, was an advocate of teaching marksmanship in schools.
>> 
>> I currently own three guns, a shotgun, a rifle, and a handgun. My favorite
>> is a Browning semi-automatic 22 rifle, also John Browning's favorite gun.
>> It is beautiful, a true work of art. I bought it on sight 40 years ago. I
>> lusted after that gun more than I ever lusted after a Leica camera. It has
>> appreciated in price more than twenty times the price I paid.
>> <http://www.basspro.com/**Browning-SemiAuto-Grade-I-22-**
>> LR-Rifle/product/102<http://www.basspro.com/Browning-SemiAuto-Grade-I-22-LR-R
>> ifle/product/102>
>> 17873/>
>> 
>> I was taught to shoot as a ten year old at a YMCA camp by a German doctor
>> who had served as in infantryman under the Kaiser during WW I. At one time
>> I was even capable of shooting a bullet through the center of a cigarette,
>> end on, at 50 ft. I shake too much now and my vision isn't what it used to
>> be.
>> 
>> The prevalence of arms has a low correlation with gun murder rates.
>> Vermont and New Hampshire are the U.S. states with the highest per capita
>> gun ownership, minimum regulatory requirements, and also the lowest rates
>> of gun homicides. What really disturbs me is traveling through Europe and
>> the Middle East and seeing all those young military types in airports and
>> wandering the streets with fully armed large magazine assault rifles slung
>> over their backs. How responsible are they? You guys who are appalled at
>> seeing weapons, think about that.
>> 
>> Now about Tina's picture of a "Tea Party" family reunion. This may be a
>> minority opinion but I think it is a poorly composed, unsharp, snapshot of
>> a family at a dinner table with one person handing a gun to another. Just 
>> a
>> bad picture. Peter is right is stating that prudent gun handling practices
>> are being violated. The is no indication that it is a "Tea Party" meeting
>> at all. Even Tina's  original title on her web site does not identify it 
>> as
>> such. This picture is far below Tina's usual standard and I suspect was
>> titled and posted only to evoke comment. And you can see. It did.
>> 
>> Larry Z
>> 
>> 
>> 
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