Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/04/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Bill, I did make it clear I was talking about India. Asian parents are very professional course oriented. Why do you get insulted? Cheers Jayanand On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote: > Not to offend, jayanand, but my only experience with India is through > telephone banks, and those do not put a good face on your country. In the > US, the people who work for liberal arts degrees are not ones who take > second best, but are people who are sincerely dedicated to the values of > learning, and have in some cases carefully considered the employment > possibilities that will result. I have know many Liberal arts majors, and > not a one of them chose that because they couldn?t get into a science or > math program. That is, really, in US conditions, and insulting statement. > > -----Original Message----- From: Jayanand Govindaraj > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 3:31 AM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: Sony Sucks, big time > > Bill, > Well I am not an Engineering Graduate, though I am a Math/Statistics > graduate. I have been hiring people in campus interviews, lateral recruits, > freshers etc. since 1987, first for Citibank India and then for my own > company, all direct recruits into the management cadre. I think I have > enough experience to know what I am talking about - in fact in both cases, > for freshers, we were only worried about above average intelligence - the > banking/finance know how could easily be taught in a few months. I have > nothing against Liberal Arts majors, only the ones who opt for that stream > are those, in my experience, under Indian conditions, who could not get > admission in professional/commerce/science degree courses. Secondly, a lack > of math knowledge is a severe handicap in most manufacturing/services > management trainee type of jobs. YMMV. > Cheers > Jayanand > > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> > wrote: > > You may not know this, and most employers certainly don't, but Liberal >> Arts and Fine Arts majors make the best employees. They learn fast, and >> are >> not filled with useless ideas about how to get things done, and more >> easily >> adapt to change. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Gmail >> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:13 PM >> To: Leica Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: Sony Sucks, big time >> >> I was a liberal arts major (Econ) and have designed products and services >> that you very likely have used. Back in the 90s when I was at MSFT, there >> were loads of music majors writing code and even art history majors >> running >> product groups. The group program manager for the native apps on the >> original iphone was an English major. Many tech startup founders have >> liberal arts backgrounds. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 13, 2014, at 22:35, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> >> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Jim, But Liberal Arts majors are incapable of designing TVs or >>> manufacturing them in the first place! (-: So what is your point? >>> Cheers >>> Jayanand >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Jim Gmail <jplaurel at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> That's what happens when the liberal arts are discarded in favor of more >>>> "practical" majors. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Apr 13, 2014, at 20:19, Herbert Kanner <kanner at acm.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Nathan, >>>>> >>>>> You may just have been a victim of the fact that most engineers cannot >>>>> >>>>> write, whether it's in English or Japanese. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Here's how I achieved fame in my department at Apple. A couple of guys >>>>> >>>>> "invented" a piece of software that gets independently invented at >>>> just >>>> about every company that writes software. The system controlled editing >>>> so >>>> that two or more people couldn't simultaneously make changes and step >>>> on >>>> each other's work. So, if one person "checks the software out" for >>>> editing, >>>> all others can get it on a read-only basis until the first person checks >>>> it >>>> back in. >>>> >>>> >>>>> I had to use this simple thing, and the write-up by it's authors was so >>>>> >>>>> damn unintelligible that I had to figure out how to work it by trial >>>> and >>>> error. After then using it, I just decided, on my own to write a manual. >>>> My >>>> boss was so impressed that I got an imaginative reward: three bottles of >>>> wine a month for a year. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Subsequently, I was picked to edit our release notes, which ultimately >>>>> >>>>> grew to about 350 pages. I had a great experience editing the >>>> writings of >>>> people, with a few exceptions, couldn't write. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Herbert Kanner >>>>> kanner at acm.org >>>>> 650-326-8204 >>>>> >>>>> Question authority and the authorities will question you. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 13, 2014, at 1:44 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I have never owned a Sony camera, and now I know for sure that I >>>>>> never >>>>>> >>>>>> will. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> We just bought a 65-inch Sony Bravia TV, one of the latest models, not >>>>>> >>>>>> cheap to put it mildly. Great picture, but we have struggling for 2 >>>>> days >>>>> >>>> with the simple task (or should be simple) to connect a garden variety >>>> laptop to the TV using its wifi interface so that the TV in effect acts >>>> as >>>> a computer monitor, but without the clutter of HDMI cables and all that. >>>> The menus and instructions for Sony products were apparently originally >>>> written in Klingon, then translated into Japanese and then to English. >>>> And >>>> it appears that unless your computer is a Sony Vaio, you have to perform >>>> various unnatural acts. Everything Sony seems to be proprietary. >>>> >>>> >>>>> I think the TV is going back to the store (fortunately, we bought >>>>>> >>>>>> locally), to be replace by a Samsung or LG. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Nathan >>>>>> >>>>>> Nathan Wajsman >>>>>> Alicante, Spain >>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>>>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> YNWA >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information