Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/05/16

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Subject: [Leica] Violins, lenses and cameras
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 23:30:24 -0500
References: <537690C9.3020405@threshinc.com> <48025DA69BC445ADA8E0E9E4C4A0E2B1@billHP>

As is music played for the father who bought the instrument.

(He uses a bow that should have a red dot on it.)   ;-)


On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:

> As one with a music degree, I can tell you that music played for the
> enjoyment of the performers is quite valid.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jayanand Govindaraj
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 9:10 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Violins, lenses and cameras
>
>
> Peter,
> Tools do matter. It is in choosing the best tool for a purpose that
> personal prejudices seep in, and we frequently end up with something
> sub optimal for that particular purpose.
>
> In answer to Luis, I beg to differ. Music, like all arts, should be
> performed for the benefit of the audience, otherwise it is all a
> waste...(-:
>
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
>
> On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Peter Klein <pklein at threshinc.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> A number of my friends are symphony musicians.  Today, one of them posted
>> on
>> Facebook that she had found a great online deal on a set of high-end
>> violin
>> strings, and wondered if they were OK.  This led to a discussion of the
>> fine
>> points of shelf life, variants of the brand, and whether a platinum-coated
>> E-string is better than a plain tin one.
>>
>> And I wished that the "your camera (or lens) doesn't matter" crowd were
>> listening in.  Yes, musicians argue over instruments, strings, reeds and
>> mouthpieces, just as artists *do* argue over paintbrushes, and
>> photographers
>> argue about cameras and lenses.  Does anyone seriously believe that  a
>> cheap
>> school-orchestra fiddle should sound as good as a Stradivarius or Guarneri
>> violin?  Yes, the best players might be able to make the bad fiddle sound
>> reasonably good, but no way would it sound as good as the Strad.
>>
>> So why do some of us constantly down people who prefer Lens A over Lens B,
>> or Camera 1 over Camera 2?   The lens "resonates" the light, emphasizing
>> some aspects while diminishing others, just as the instrument resonates
>> the
>> sound.  The camera's ergonomics and design are optimum for one type of
>> picture over another.  And a camera that you have to fight to get the shot
>> is just as hampering as the violin with a bad "wolf" tone in an exposed
>> passage.
>>
>> Yes, of course musicians can get cultlike about this brand over that, just
>> as photographers do about cameras and lenses.  Yes, a good photographer my
>> be able to take a decent picture with any camera or lens, just as the
>> musician may be able to turn in a decent performance with any instrument.
>> But if my friend is going to play a big solo, she wants the best violin
>> and
>> strings she can afford. If you handed her a cheap school fiddle and told
>> her
>> that "instruments don't matter, it's the musician that makes the music,"
>> she
>> would probably think you were an ignoramus (to be charitable). And she'd
>> be
>> right.
>>
>> The hard truth is:  Tools do matter.  Maybe not so much with Web-sized
>> JPGs,
>> and maybe not to rank beginners.  But once you're doing things "for real,"
>> they do matter. A lot.
>>
>> --Peter
>>
>>
>>
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Regards,

Sonny
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Natchitoches, Louisiana
1714
Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase

USA


In reply to: Message from pklein at threshinc.com (Peter Klein) ([Leica] Violins, lenses and cameras)
Message from billcpearce at cox.net (Bill Pearce) ([Leica] Violins, lenses and cameras)