Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2017/12/28
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi Peter, Thank you very much for your information and examples. In my opinion Kodak BW400CN was much better than Ilford, Maybe you have processed differently the dark areas? Concerning developping I think I can obtain good developping in C-41, some years ago it was as well excellent places to develop B&W but today is better if you do it yourself at your preferences, concerning scanning I?ve never found a professional good service, at least at a reasonable price, I prefer scan my self too, I?m using Vuescan and I scan obtaining DNG files at 16 bit. The last picture look really perfect but maybe I prefer the character of the traditionnal films?. Thanks a lot! Cheers Lluis > El 28 des 2017, a les 12:34, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> va > escriure: > > Guys, > > FWIW: I started using chromogenic film at roughly the time I joined the LUG > (years ago). I found that the processing is generally straightforward for > most > shops that do things like checking quality of the developer before and > after > running a batch through. > > The real issue is scanning. Gerry is right, there is little reason that it > should not scan well and give great tonality. HOWEVER, if you ask most > developing shops to scan it, they just treat it like a single-channel jpeg > (in > my experience) > > I used to get mine scanned onto CD as high res .TIFFs which gave me > something > close to 24Mpixel; more than good enough for printing from and for > treating as I > would RAW files. > > I used Kodak 400CN. I haven't tried the Fuji, but I found that the Ilford > films > tend to be a little darker. > > This is a BW400CN shot: > > <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/album230/album284/Camelot_120051010.jpg.html> > > This is the same taken on XP2: > > <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/album230/album284/Camelot_2XP220051010.jpg.html> > > sorry about the glare! The only other difference is that (I think) the > former > was taken on my IIIf and the latter on my M3. > > BW400CN was capable of this sort of thing: > > <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/album164/MillerPerfectCircle.jpg.html> > > Bear in mind that all have been converted to formats and sizes that the > gallery > was happy with at the time. > > Peter > > On 28/12/2017 08:50, Gerry Walden wrote: >> Lluis >> >> I started using chromogenic films when I decided the time had come to get >> rid of my darkroom. At that time there were a number of local places that >> I could get GOOD C-41 processing without handling problems etc. so it was >> a good alternative for me. My favourite was Kodak T-Max 400CN which >> (sadly) is no longer available, but I have found that the Fuji Neopan >> 400CN is a very good alternative which scans excellently with good >> contrast and virtually non-existant grain. However the problem now is >> that there is nowhere locally that will do professional standard C-41 >> processing. I never did like the Ilford version, and the suggestion that >> you down rate it to 200iso made it a bit of a non-starter for me. >> >> As for printing, I cannot comment because (as stated above) I started >> using chromogenic when I did away with my darkroom. However I see no >> reason why t should not print well once you get used to it but it does >> tend to have a lower contrast level. It certainly scans very well. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Gerry >> >> Gerry Walden LRPS >> www.gwpics.com >> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or >> +44 (0)797 287 7932 >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 24 Dec 2017, at 18:37, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at >>> gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Congratulations my friend! Great pictures! well desserved! >>> >>> I see you did a great use of chromogenic film, I think I?ve never used >>> it? or maybe once many years ago?., at least in scanned woork theuy >>> offer good gradation and contrast, I don?t know with enlargements on the >>> darkroom, did you test them against the traditional enlargements from >>> panchromatic film? >>> >>> Have a happy Christmas time! >>> >>> Best wishes >>> Lluis >>> >>> >>>> El 22 des 2017, a les 7:18, Gerry Walden <gwpics at me.com> va escriure: >>>> >>>> Just had this published by Ilford: >>>> >>>> https://www.ilfordphoto.com/pre-visualisation-black-white-photography/ >>>> <https://www.ilfordphoto.com/pre-visualisation-black-white-photography/> >>>> >>>> Gerry >>>> >>>> Gerry Walden LRPS >>>> www.gwpics.com >>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or >>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > -- > > =========================================================== > Dr Peter Dzwig > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information