Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1996/06/07

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To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: Distress
From: jvr@inescn.pt (Joao Ranito)
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:46:45 +0100 (WET DST)
Cc: topper@panix.com

Dear Dave:

>I am distressed about a few things and would appreciate any help
>I can get.
>
>1)  I did not get versions of this digest 84-85 and have no idea why.

Can't help you on that one!

>2)  I am having some difficulty getting good shots with my Leica
>M3.  The shots that come out good are really good, but the others are
>a huge disappointment.  Here are the details:

I use an M3, with a 35/3.5 Summaron and a 50/2.0 Summicron. I also use a SLR
(well, for years, I only used SLRs). My first attempts were not very
successful, but, with perseverence, now I get very good results. My first
main problem was focusing. Focusing with a rangefinder is (for me) VERY
different from focusing with a SLR. In the first tries, I sometimes *forgot*
to focus, because everything *was* in focus! So, I got some totally blurred
pictures, some soft pictures and some sharp pictures.

>- I'm a novice photographer and have been educating myself with books
>(eg., the Leica Manual '61) on the subject.  Early shots I took with
>this camera were done with slow f-stops ... hence grainy.  I think I
>understand better the optimization between depth of feild vs. resolving
>power a bit better now.  I plan on keeping a journal of all shots I take
>in the near future.  Any suggestions on other good books would be 
>appreciated as well.

"Grainy" pictures may be only out-of-focus pictures: slightly defocused
pictures will show (for me) more "subjective" grain than sharp pictures. I
think that is a nice trick played by our brains: when there is a crisp
"large-scale" pattern, the brain ignores the "finer-scale" patterns. This
effect is very acute on computer screens and televisions: the image seems
sharp, although ultimate resolution is crap. Anyone has comments on this?

>- Some shots just don't seem to get enough light.  I don't know if this
>is because my light meter (MC) is too old or if I'm just not using it
>properly.  It might also be the film I've been using (Kodak Gold and most
>recently some freebe 3m garbage).  It also might be that I haven't found
>a good developer yet, but I think I've found one now here in NJ about 1/2hr
>from my place.  A good mail-in lab address / phone # would be really great.

No, I suspect the problem is not the film, nor the lab (well, they can be
really bad, I know!), but my Leicameter MC was (notice the past tense,
_was_, because I don't use it anymore) not very reliable, specialy in low
light situations: some of my first films had the same average density as a
roll of Scoth tape! :-)

Moreover, the Leicameter sometimes shows an irritating feature: if you
measure a a scene with lots of light and then a scene in low light, the
second measurement may be influenced by the first and will register a higher
value than reality! It shows some kind of memory! I think that both
problems, low sensivity and memory, are caused by the kind of cell used
(corrections welcome).

Anyway, I just dumped the Leicameter  and bought a small handheld meter. It
works just fine, with some added bonuses:

1) whenever I can, I now use a lot of incident reading, so my negatives are
becoming more and more consistent;
3) the handheld meter is consederably lighter than the Leicameter;
3) my M3 looks at least 30 years younger without it, what a facelift! ;-).

>- My shutter curtain seems to leave a small line on the image every 10th
[snip]

Sorry, no help on that one, too!

>Thanks ... email responses would really be preferred (due to problem #1 above).

I posted it in leica-users with a copy to you!

Hope this helps.

>DT
>-- 
>Dave Topper (me)
>Student of:  Life, Computer Music and Art.
>(email responses always preferred)
>http://www.panix.com/~topper

Joao
---------------------------------
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Medidata, SA
Portugal
e-mail: medidata1@ip.pt
my e-mail: jvr@inescn.pt

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