Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1997/07/10

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Subject: Re: KEH Camera Brokers/Ugly Items
From: Welch <Bill.Welch@pressroom.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 20:22:38 -0700

Michael Bell wrote:
> 
> I have also done business with KEH and was satisfied.
> 
> I do have a question about them though.  I notice in their catalogue that
> they have many Leica items listed as ugly or glass bad.  Is there any
> market for this stuff?  I can't see either a user or collector wanting
> these.
> 
> The price on these items is ususally half of the EX+/LN price or more.
> This seems awful high for something that is probably not useable. ....

Michael, there's a big difference between ugly and bad glass, at least in 
my book. Like you, I see little use for bad glass items, unless you want 
them for parts or a paperweight. But items that are cosmetically ugly 
with good to great glass can be an exceptional bargain for anyone who 
intends to use them, not just look at them. I have bought user-grade and 
ugly items that serve me well, and saved me a bundle. Plus I don't have 
to worry if they get a ding. I don't know about KEH, but some dealers, 
such as Don Chatterton, rate very conservatively. The ugly or user items 
I've bought from him really aren't too bad looking. (OTOH, Ben had a 
quite different experience elsewhere.)


Bill