Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1997/07/10

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Subject: Re: Re[2]: KEH Camera Brokers
From: Paul Schliesser <paulsc@eos.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 97 22:22:32 -0400

>      Some dealers are using Ex+++++...... or Ex+++/Mint- or Mint-/Ex++, 
>     and some are using 9++ or 10- etc.
>     Do you have any idea what they implies?  Which one is the best buy if 
>     they are offered at the same price?  What difference does 10- have 
>     from 9++?  Maybe one very unnoticeable hairline scratch in 1mm length?
> 

David,

Most price lists should have a definition on them someplace. Shutterbug 
publishes a grading guide in every issue. Normally, the glass should be 
perfect, everything should work, and the grading should only be for 
cosmetic wear. If there is anything wrong with the item, it should be 
noted (i.e., "cleaning marks on glass," "self timer not working," etc.). 
My favorite ones are the "huge mark on front glass; no effect on image 
quality" notes. (actually, this could be added to Jeff Segawa's list of 
reseller lies.)

One of the most revealing things to look for is a range of grades. If 
everything is Ex++++, it might be like going to a movie theater and being 
offered large and extra-large drinks instead of small and large. KEH is 
well known for grading conservatively. Some other dealers grade 
everything too high. The temptation is strong, since small differences in 
grading can mean a 30% or more increase in price.

- - Paul