Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1997/09/17

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Subject: Re: Noctilux f:1.2 not f:1.0
From: "Patrick G. Sobalvarro" <pgs@sobalvarro.org>
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 09:29:26 -0700

At 04:02 AM 9/17/97 -0400, Marvin Moss wrote:
> As Mark wrote "It is the f1.2 that is rare" and sells for about $5,500.
> You guys are talking about the more common f:1.0 which is available
>  from most dealers for about $2200 on the average.  Dont mix peaches
>  and pears.

I agree that it makes more sense that way, but that is not apparently what
Marc's message said.  Here is Marc's message:

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>Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 16:12:54 -0400
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>From: Marc James Small <msmall@roanoke.infi.net>
>Subject: Re: Noctilux 50/1 versus 50/1,2
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>
>At 11:59 AM 9/16/97 -0500, Eric Welch, an argumentative cuss, but a man of
>great worth and merit, wrote:
>>At 10:25 AM 9/13/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>>>Peter Dechert, no mean critic, has used both versions professionally and
>>
>>Well, if he says so, I'll have to accept it. I respect his opinion. Never
>>heard of Fletcher.
>>
>>>The number of f/1.2 lenses sold was minuscule, perhaps less than 500;  I
>>>doubt if many more than this of the f/1 have been sold.  I find it
>>>surprising that you apparently know a number of professionals who have used
>>>both:  the above two are the only pros of my acquaintance who have used
>>>EITHER, much less both, of these lenses.
>>
>>There are a bunch of the 1.0 lenses out. I personally know of at least 20
>>people who use them, and looking in shutterbug, there's got to be at least
>>15 or 20 for sale somewhere most of the time.
>
>You might want to look again.  There are generally none of these lenses for
>sale and, if one appears, it will be the only one in an issue.  These
>lenses are RARE.  (Talk to Jim Kuehl, or Chatterton, or Arnie Duren, or the
>Tillises, or Tamarkin:  they may see one a year, but no more than that.)  I
>would appreciate your referring me to an issue of the 'Bug in the last 2
>years where '15 or 20' Noctiluxes are listed.
>
>Marc
>
>
>msmall@roanoke.infi.net  FAX:  +540/343-7315
>Cha robh bas fir gun ghras fir!

Clearly he is responding to Eric's claim about 15 or 20 1.0 lenses.