Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/02/05

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: [Rollei] Jazz Photography
From: ted grant <75501.3002@compuserve.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 23:43:34 -0500

Joe Stephenson wrote:

<<<<The "Courtesy and respect" that you find (accurately in my experience)
lacking in reportage is the reason that many people have lost patience with
the press and its sometimes pushy, indifferent manner.>>>>>

Joe,

If there is anyone who has lost patience with the media it is anyone who
has watched them do their thing of the past 30 years! Degrading
dramatically in the past 20! To an abominable manner in the past 10 years!

If we who have been and are now on occaision involved in the media circus
of to-day, Leica or otherwise carriers, look at ourselves in a sense of
reality of doing onto others as I'd like them to do to me...........the
media are a bunch of bastards!!!!!!! 

I apologize for my language use, unfortunately having been a news
photographer when it was an hounarable profession and watching it develop
into the animal packs we see today, NOT ALL OF THEM! But an awful great
number of them. Who would give any of them respect?

They dress like animals, act worse than animals and command absolutely no
respect whatsoever! And I'm not even talking about Leica card and camera
carrying news photographers! Not many of them in any event! Mostly over the
hill guys who know better and act as gentlemen and still come out with the
best picture!  Well OK sometimes!! :)

To get this back on the topic of Leica and jazz group available horrendous
light scenes.

Shot some a few years ago, B&W and at the insistance of an "amateur" who
had been shooting stuff of his brothers group, I took his advice and as
wierd as it seemed, it worked.

He used Kodak 3200 at that speed and sometimes 6400. Developed the film
himself and then took it and had 4X6 B&W prints made at his local 1 hour
shop!

I know it sounds crazy already, but hear it out! It gets wilder! :)

When the prints are made 4X6 they don't show any grain!  Now you edit and
take the very best and copy them onto Tmax 100 film fine grain stuff. And
make your almost grainless 8X10's from the copies! Now I know you are going
to be shaking your heads and brains to pulp.

But I saw prints he made and there wasn't any idea that they came through
such a process and the band photos were incredible.  Mine, well we wont get
into that! :) But it worked and does work, if you want to go to all the
trouble!

ted