Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/03/06

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica-Users List Digest V2 #215
From: abpeking <abpeking@public.bta.net.cn>
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:46:24 +0800 (CST)

Marc,

Uh - i think your reference to the 300/5.6 kilfit as being one of the 
many lenses using Series VIII filters rather reinforces my point that 
it is an obscure size. And likewise for the Pro-tessars and their 60mm 
filters - I don't think I have ever seen such a lens and they have been 
out of production for quite a time if I am not mistaken....

When these fine old optics were in production was it not the case that 
their manufacturers and a number of filter makers also offered a good 
range of filters for them? That Leica, to my knowledge the only company 
still producing lenses with these filter fittings, does not offer any 
(other than UV and maybe a POL or one or perhaps two B/W filters IF you 
can find them) is sufficient justification for them to switch asap to 
more sensible sizes such as 58mm(which they abandoned for 60mm) or 62mm 
- - both of which are common.

Yes some types of filters in all sorts of sizes are available - at a 
cost in time, money and convenience -  from specialist companies in one 
or two countries, but a current professional camera should not force 
the user to resort to special orders or DIY fixits such as stepping 
rings when competitors have ready solutions available worldwide and off 
the shelf. 

When a company like Rollei or Schneider introduces new filter sizes for 
their lenses it is a slightly different matter IMHO since they do own 
B+W and have obvious commercial motivation to provide a line of filters 
for them: in many cases it is an irritating and unnecessary extra 
expense for the consumer but at least there is logic to it. I cannot 
understand why Leica persists in producing -  and moreover introducing 
new -  lenses with under-supported filter fittings. It seems to me that 
they just do not listen to what pros demand: for instance there is 
practical way to fit cc filters to any of the R lenses wider than 24mm. 
How is it that Canon and Nikon manage this? Why did they introduce a 
280mm with only a 112mm(!) filter fitting and no rear mounted ones when 
prime intended users such as nature, sports and fashion photographers 
are more than likely to want to use a whole range of filters? Again 
Canon and Nikon understand their market better and did not have to 
redesign their long lenses because of such an oversight. This (lack of) 
responsiveness to professionals seems to be at the heart of the reason 
that Leica has lost market share to Japanese rivals. After several 
decades and a change of management I for one would hope that Leica can 
get it act together for the simple reason that we LUGGERS all know they 
make the best lenses and could be the top of the heap again if only 
they listen to their customers.

I could go on - and will later! - but that is my blah-blah for today. 
Off shooting now...

Bests

Adrian Bradshaw
Photojournalist
Shanghai, China