Re: [Leica] Re: Sopranos (final)

["Joe Codispoti" <joecodi@thegrid.net>]

I agree that I should have included Marks and Raimo's original posts or at
least quoted from them.

I took issue with Raimo for *his* innuendos about Guido's last name and with
Mark for publishing the Alta Vista translation (erroneous by the way) which
also alluded to a similar defamatory reference.
I thought that it was in poor taste. I would not have publish such a
translation since - correct or not - it was demeaning to a LUG member and
serves only to fuel the irresistible urge by others to pounce on one when
one is down.

I enjoy learning from what most members have to say -  pertinent to
photography or not. Talking about Ted's underwear (wet or dry) may be in
poor taste, but it is obvious that it is done in good humor and without
malice.
I am not so sure that more delicate subjects can be as innocuous.

Joseph



- ----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Brick <jimbrick@photoaccess.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 1999 2:30 PM
Subject: [Leica] Re: Sopranos


> I have to defend Mark here. Mark Rabiner never speaks in innuendos and is
> never condescending. I've read most of the posts that Joe is speaking
about
> and they were neither from Mark nor does Mark leave prints in the soup for
> 8-10 minutes.
>
> When reading posts that are new and contain pieces of their posts, it is
> sometimes difficult to separate party 1 from party 2 from party 3. When
> using someone's name in a response, one should carefully inspect the
> original post to ascertain who wrote what and when. Who's on first? No
> who's on second, what's on first...
>
> Jim
>
>
> At 02:10 PM 8/14/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >Joe Codispoti wrote:
> >>
> >> Raimo and Rabiner:
> >>
> >> To what point have we degenerated that we must use innuendos and
> >> condescending behavior in order to attract attention?
> >> Does it make one feel superior or does it take one back to first-year
high
> >> school?
> >>
> >> Ridicule and put-downs are not worthy of a civilised society. But then,
> >> having enough money to buy a Leica is not necessarily indicative of
one's
> >> level of civility. Grow up.
> >>
> >> Joseph Codispoti
> >
> >Just as your name is now at the top of this post and mine will be after I
post
> >it it is hard to sometimes attribute who said what. I believe I am on
your
> team
> >on the anti Ridicule and condescending behavior club. I think I was
fighting
> >these battles on a post you may have attributed to me.
> >In other words-
> >I don't know what you thought I said but I'll just tell you ahead of
time: I
> >DIDN'T DO IT!
> >Of course the whole thing is a tad vague. Quote me here or privately and
I'll
> >justify or explain what I was saying.
> >Mark Rabiner
>
>