Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/11/30

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Subject: RE: [Leica] God, no Canon vs. Nikon...
From: "Kotsinadelis, Peter (Peter)" <peterk@lucent.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:25:54 -0800

Dave,

Well.  According to tests, the new EOS-3 is faster at AF than the Nikon F5.
Especially with the telephotos lenses that take advantage of new AF
algorithms. So please tell me where you are drawing your statistics?  Also,
the problem with having the Nikon mount was marketing too!  Many users could
use their old lenses, leaving less in new revenue for the company.  Hence
another reason why Canon grew larger than Nikon.

As far as off-topic?  At least we are talking photography instead of war
issues?  Now that was of-topic.  You should have commented there.

Anyway, to each his own.  If Nikon were indeed a better product, pray tell
us why the EOS Lenses and cameras outsell it about 2 to 1?  Even with the
retro compatible mount. ;-)

Peter K

- -----Original Message-----
From: dmorton@journalist.co.uk [mailto:dmorton@journalist.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 10:29 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Cc: dmorton@journalist.co.uk
Subject: RE: [Leica] God, no Canon vs. Nikon...


Kotsinadelis, Peter wrote:

> Eric, its partially true.  A larger opening/lens mount provides more 
> space
> for things like electrical contacts.  Minolta changed theirs when they 
> came
> out with the Maxxum for technical reasons as documented in Sam 
> Kusumoto's
> autobiography (he was the President at the time, I have a copy of this 
> book
> if you are interested.)  Canon did it because their FD mount was passe.
> Nikon thought it would provide a sort of investment protection, but the
> limited diameter is problematic since you have to constantly look 
> backward
> (for compatibility) to advance forward.  Minolta and Canon avoided MF 
> lens
> compatibility issue by changing mounts entirely.  Smart move!  


I was trying to avoid comment to this thread, as it's so far off topic, 
but *some* of us think Nikon 'did the decent thing' with the lens mount. 

The F5 (& F100) using the latest AFS lenses out perform Canon's AF system 
*using the old Nikon mount*. When my D1 arrives, I will be able to use all 
my old manual focus lenses on it. Changing lens mounts and destroying 
snappers' cash flow may be fun for Canon, but it was a *LARGE* pain in the 
gluteus maximus for many of its customers.

David Morton
dmorton@journalist.co.uk