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Subject: Re: [Leica] So much BS
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:30:29 +0000

JUST FOR THE RECORD:

The WoodStein stories were based on unnamed "reliable sources." What you 
are referring to is the fact that during the Watergate reporting period 
"the boys" were told that anything they used from one source had to be 
confirmed by two additional sources - so that any charge was, in reality, 
coming from three separate sources. All, however, were "unnamed."
\
(In addition to having seen All The President's Men - and, yes, read the 
book - I happened to be a reporter on the Metro staff of the Post during 
that period, so I am somewhat familiar with the events as they transpired.)

But, hey guys, what we're talking here is subjective opinions about the 
allegedly reliability of different camera models, NOT the fall of a 
President. Little sense of proportion, perhaps? :-)

At 06:21 PM 1/19/00 -0800, you wrote:
> >>Heh heh. Nice try. As I said to you privately, tell that to Woodward and
>Bernstein!<<
>
>As I recall, Woodward and Bernstein used "unquotable" source to confirm what
>their quotable sources told them. Unlike many of the "journalists" today who
>go directly to print with the "unquotable."
>
>Bryan
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mike Johnston" <michaeljohnston@ameritech.net>
>To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 8:19 AM
>Subject: [Leica] So much BS
>
>
> > >>>Sorry, Mike, but that is so much BS.  By quoting "unquotable"
> > sources, you set yourself up to automatically win, as your sources are
> > beyond
> > confirmation or refutation.  It's not fair and it's not tolerable in
> > honest
> > disputation<<<
> >
> >
> > Heh heh. Nice try. As I said to you privately, tell that to Woodward and
> > Bernstein!
> >
> > I call people as a journalist. (This isn't ego. I'm a magazine editor.
> > People want to know if they're talking to me as an individual, or
> > because I'm doing research for an article.) I ask them if the
> > conversation is on the record (attributable quotes) or off the record
> > (unattributed content only). If they say "off the record," I'm not
> > goingto go blathering their names on the internet just to win an
> > argument with you.
> >
> > This is _perfectly_ SOP for any journalist, and anybody who's even taken
> > a Journalism 101 course will tell you. But nice try!
> >
> > --Mike
> >
> >