Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/01/22

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Noctilux result????
From: "Roland Smith" <roland@dnai.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 20:50:10 -0800

I have an LTM Canon f1.2 which I plan to use on my M Leicas.   How is this
lens wide open?  Can it be a viable alternative to the Noctilux if one is
satisfied to shoot at either f1.2 of f1.4?

Roland Smith
- ----- Original Message -----
From: robmueller <robmueller@home.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 12:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] Noctilux result????


> Hey Dan,
>
> F1.0, let's see. $2900, can only use it at >f4. Hmmmm. Why would I want
this
> lens again? I'm not trying to be a smard A.., but something doesn't
> correlate. I admit I know nothing of lens, so what are the advantages?
>
> Rob Mueller
> www.studiesinblackandwhite.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Dan S
> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 1:34 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Noctilux result????
>
>
>
>
> > ----------
> > From: Dan S[SMTP:DSTATE1@HOTMAIL.COM]
> > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 1:34:13 PM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: RE: [Leica] Noctilux result????
> > Auto forwarded by a Rule
> >
> Rob, this is only evident at the widest apertures.  It is one of the trade
> offs of an F1.0 lens.  Stopped down this lens is really superb.  Indeed at
f
> 4.0-f11.0 I would doubt most users could tell it from the Summicron M at
> enlargments less than 10x...and no way could you judge the difference when
> using high speed film.
>
> Dan
>
>
> >
> >Ted,
> >
> >Would you accept this vignetting image from any other lens? No. Why must
we
> >make excuses for this? Because it is Leica? As an artist I object to this
> >in
> >the image. I think it looks terrible and completely detracts from the
> >photo.
> >
> >Rob Mueller
> >www.studiesinblackandwhite.com
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> >[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Ted Grant
> >Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 11:09 PM
> >To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> >Subject: Re: [Leica] Noctilux result????
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From: Ted Grant[SMTP:TEDGRANT@ISLANDNET.COM]
> > > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 11:09:03 PM
> > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Noctilux result????
> > > Auto forwarded by a Rule
> > >
> >Jerry S. Justianto wrote:
> >
> > >Please see my first pictures with my Noctilux :-(
> > >
> > >http://Noctilux.homepage.com/photoalbum.html
> > >
> > >Why do I get vignetting with these pictures?
> > >
> > >Above me are 4 neon lights and windows on my right side.
> > >
> > >I am using E60 filter for my Noct.
> > >
> > >from 5 pictures taht I shot all at 1.0 all have some funny shadow on
> >it.>>>
> >
> >Hi Jerry,
> >
> >I guess nobody told you that the Noctilux at f 1,0 does vignette on
> >corners. But it's no big deal other than when you run into plain
> >backgrounds as you have in yours.  But the vignetting isn't
objectionable,
> >just kind of adds a framing factor to the image.
> >
> >And take that filter and throw it away, all it'll do is screw-up your
> >images. You don't need any filters on a Noctilux, I guess you weren't
told
> >it's against the law and you could be arrested for putting a filter on
the
> >worlds most remarkable lens for night light and no light? :) Well not
quite
> >but wait a bit for further comments on the filter.
> >
> >ted
> >
> >
> >
> >Ted Grant
> >This is Our Work. The Legacy of Sir William Osler.
> >http://www.islandnet.com/~tedgrant
> >
>
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