Re: [Leica] M winders

[chucko@siteconnect.com (Chuck Albertson)]

John,

That's a good description of what was happening. The damn thing sounded like
a bazooka going off, which sort of obviated the point of shooting with an M
in the first place. Anyway, I don't do much photography with the M that
really needs a motorized film advance, so I never went for a newer winder;
the last time I remember wishing I had one was while shooting a rugby
tournament in town. Since rugby is still a cult sport in the U.S., you can
hang out right on the sidelines at most matches, and shoot the throw-ins and
the scrums with a wide-angle lens (if they take place on your side of the
pitch). A winder would be nice, but not essential---I burn through enough
film at those events, anyway.

Chuck Albertson
Seattle, Wash.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "John Collier" <jbcollier@home.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] M winders


> It sounds like you had the first M4-2 winder which was solenoid operated
> through an easily maladjusted linkage involving the release button/
> actuating rod to the winder switch. It commonly would trigger the winder
> when the release button was pressed halfway even though the shutter had
not
> fired. Terrible noises then ensued. The later winder is much more
reliable.
>
> John Collier
>
> > From: chucko@siteconnect.com (Chuck Albertson)
> > Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 13:16:08 -0800
> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] M winders
> >
> > John,
> >
> > I had the same problem with a M4-2 winder on a M4-2 body about 10 years
ago.
> > Also, it had a nasty kickback through the shutter release---I was afraid
the
> > winder was tearing the guts out of the shutter---and made a rather loud
> > "thump" every time it was fired. I got rid of the winder, and haven't
had
> > any interest in getting another one. One of these days, I might go for
one
> > of Tom A's Rapidwinders, but for now I'll just try to be the Fastest
Thumb
> > in the West.
> >
> > Chuck Albertson
> > Seattle, Wash.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Collier" <jbcollier@home.com>
> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 11:56 AM
> > Subject: [Leica] M winders
> >
> >
> >> I just had an interesting conversation with Gerry Smith of Kindermann
> > Canada
> >> regarding M winders. I was having problems with my camera underexposing
> > part
> >> of the frame and also occasional horizontal "light streaks." As I was
> > about
> >> to head off to Victoria, that bastion of all that is proper and Ted, I
> > sent
> >> it off express for Gerry to look at. The camera checks out fine! Gerry
> > told
> >> me that this is a common problem when the Ms are used with the winder,
> >> slower shutter speeds (1/60 and under) and the winder is used
continuously
> >> (light pressure maintained on the release button). He does not
recommend
> >> that the winder be used continuously at all, only as a single shot
device.
> >> It is important to take your finger off the release button after each
> >> exposure or things go awry with the shutter mech. Every time I had a
> >> problem, it was with the winder hooked up and used continuously so it
is
> >> hard to fault his diagnosis. Anyone else out there experience this as
> > well?
> >>
> >> John Collier
> >>
> >>
> >
>