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Subject: Re: [Leica] noctilux vs. the cheap alternative
From: "Stephen A. Talesnick" <stephen@talesnick.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 16:21:04 -0700
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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Grant" <tedgrant@home.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] noctilux vs. the cheap alternative


> > At 10:05 PM 5/25/00 +0100, you wrote:
> > >Just out of interest, is the metering on an M6 accurate at such low
light
> > >levels?<<<<<<<
>
> Tina Manley responded:
>  > It is pretty accurate!  The newer M6's have more accurate metering in
low
> > light than the older ones.  For an available darkness photo with the the
> > Noctilux wide open and 1600 film pushed to 3200 see:
> >
> >
http://main.nc.us/openstudio/tinamanley/Honduras/amilcar.htm<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> Hi Tina,
>
> Beauty photograph!  Don't you just love shooting under that kind of
> light condition and have them work? I'll take this kind of light
> condition any day over sunlight, whether shooting B&W or colour.
>
> The nice thing of shooting by available light means they look like what
> the real world is all about, natural as we see it.  And not blown away
> with, dare I say it?  "Flash!"  This in turn gives an exposure all
> right, but totally destroys the natural moment as we were motivated in
> the first place.
>
> I realize some folks can't purchase a Noctilux, but all I can say is,
> it's worth every penny to save for no matter how long it takes,
> particularly if the photographer truly enjoys shooting things by the
> light of the moment.  And is motivated by existing light.  I still like
> to say even though some folks think I'm crazy, but  "If you can see it,
> you can shoot it!"
>
> And that may mean 3200 film pushed to 6400, a Noctilux wide open, hand
> held 1/15th exposure!    Now that's,  "Shooting by available darkness!"
> :-)  But can you ever capture some quite incredible photographic moments.
>
> I see the topic here is, "noctilux vs. the cheap alternative".  gee whiz
> I never thought one would even consider comparing a "cheap alternative
> to the "great one!"  By the same token, if one isn't a fan of shooting
> available light and can't appreciate what the Noctilux puts on film, I
> suppose any old cheap alternative would do.
>
> But goodness me, don't hold the images side by each, particularly if you
> can't afford the Noctilux after seeing the difference!  Trust me this is
> something to see and reading a description of what happens doesn't tell
> you anything. It has to be seen to understand.
>
> Everyone of us who have this lens, the Noctilux, love it for what it
> cuts into film, the light conditions it allows us to work under and
> record successful photographs.  No matter what we say will convince a
> non-believer of what it does.
>
> Tina, as you have proven on many occasions with your photography, this
> is one sweetheart of a 50mm lens.
>
> ted
>

Replies: Reply from Ted Grant <tedgrant@home.com> (Re: [Leica] noctilux vs. the cheap alternative)
In reply to: Message from "Bryan Caldwell" <bcaldwell@softcom.net> (Re: [Leica] noctilux vs. the cheap alternative)
Message from Tina Manley <images@InfoAve.Net> (RE: [Leica] noctilux vs. the cheap alternative)
Message from Ted Grant <tedgrant@home.com> (Re: [Leica] noctilux vs. the cheap alternative)