Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/07/07

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica initial quality story LHSA
From: Bill Satterfield <cwsat@cyberhighway.net>
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 12:58:46 -0500
References: <B58B342C.6FBB%jbcollier@home.com> <022501bffd56$baa2a7e0$2d30fea9@basecamp> <002a01bfe830$1bf24640$140a640a@cusackknowles.com> <39661571.4DDEAC0A@cyberhighway.net>

Has anyone had or heard of any problems with the LHSA? I have a NIB and was
waiting to use it later. Any checks I could run to assure that it does not have a
problem?

Bill Satterfield wrote:

> Dumb question but what is shutter bounce? Live and learnthey say......
>
> Chuck Albertson wrote:
>
> > I had a similar problem with shutter bounce in a new M6 .85 I purchased at
> > Glazer's a couple of years ago, which manifested itself during an overseas
> > trip. Russ Sherrell sorted it out when I got back, and had it repaired by
> > Leica USA in under a week. His prices are competitive, and he really goes
> > the extra mile to make sure you're satisfied with a purchase. That sort of
> > after-sales service is why I prefer to buy through a local dealer, even
> > though it means paying our 8.3 percent sales tax. If I had to go through
> > three bodies (like Jim did) via mail order, I likely would have gone berserk
> > and wound up as a "breaking news" item on CNN.
> >
> > Chuck Albertson
> > Seattle, Wash.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Laurel" <JimLaurel@earthlink.net>
> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 7:25 AM
> > Subject: [Leica] Leica initial quality story
> >
> > > A couple of weeks ago, I decided to purchase a new Leica for my wife as an
> > > anniversary/birthday present.  It was to be given to her during our
> > > vacation, so I wanted to make sure it was tested and in good order before
> > > leaving.
> > >
> > > I went down to Glazers Camera Supply here in Seattle, and Russ Sherrel
> > > prompltly produced a shiny new chrome M6 TTL along with a Summicron 35
> > ASPH.
> > > As I have had several initial quality problems with past new M6 cameras
> > (one
> > > with a vertical misalignment, another with a 1/1000 shutter bounce), I
> > made
> > > it a point to check the camera thoroughly.
> > >
> > > The first body I checked had a terrible vertical misliangment problem.  It
> > > would be possible to focus, but the coincident images did not lineup
> > > precisely.  Russ agreed and opened up a new box.  Second body would not
> > show
> > > the coincident images matched perfectly when the lens was focused at
> > > infinity.  I had my "known good" M6s with me, along with lenses, so I was
> > > able to eliminate lenses as a possibility for this problem.
> > >
> > > Russ opened a 3rd box.  Finally, I had found a body with no vertical
> > > misalignment and was aligned properly at infinity.
> > >
> > > I don't understand what Leica is thinking.  The foundation of thier pitch
> > to
> > > customers is high precision and quality.  Yet, on a single day, I found
> > two
> > > clearly defective bodies sitting on a dealer shelf.  Some people may not
> > > notice the defects, but they were obvious to me (20/10 vision
> > uncorrected).
> > > My first M6 .85 purchased 2 years ago had a shutter bounce at 1/1000, and
> > > the second had a vertical misalignment.  A pretty poor record for one guy
> > in
> > > just 5 years.  Thankfully, my dealer is very supportive, but it is
> > > disturbing to see such poor quality control.
> > >
> > > --Jim Laurel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

In reply to: Message from John Collier <jbcollier@home.com> ([Leica] Housekeeping: How to amaze your friends and fellow leica-users)
Message from "Jim Laurel" <JimLaurel@earthlink.net> ([Leica] Leica initial quality story)
Message from chucko@siteconnect.com (Chuck Albertson) (Re: [Leica] Leica initial quality story)
Message from Bill Satterfield <cwsat@cyberhighway.net> (Re: [Leica] Leica initial quality story)