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Subject: Re: [Leica] Pensees (some answers)
From: "Richard W. Harig" <deputydirmh@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 07:10:29 -0700
References: <b8.b9d0b63.2700ba18@aol.com> <016701c0290c$06d2d280$9601200a@amd400> <000d01c02913$6646b040$02000003@dnai.com>

Thanks, I appreciate the feedback

dick
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Roland Smith <roland@dnai.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Pensees (some answers)


> John Van Stelten replaced the front element in my 90mm Elmarit at a fair
> price.   The lens is working very well and I am quite pleased.
>
> I recommend him.
>
> Roland Smith
> roland@dnai.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard W. Harig" <deputydirmh@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 10:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Pensees (some answers)
>
>
> > I'm wondering if anyone has experience with John Van Stelten of Focal
> Point,
> > Inc.  I have two lenses with haze issues and his estimates look pretty
> good.
> > Also I read a recommendation for Sherry Kraunter to do  a CLA on an M3.
> > Does anyone have an email address or website for her?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > dick harig
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Krechtz@aol.com>
> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 7:24 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Pensees (some answers)
> >
> >
> > > Thought I would take a quick shot at this.
> > >
> > > Joe Sobel
> > >
> > > In a message dated 9/22/00 6:55:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > dante@umich.edu
> > > writes:
> > >
> > > <<
> > >  1.      If Leicas have a theoretically unlimited life, even if
digital
> > >  did not take over, would prices eventually come down on used gear
> anyway
> > >  - it would seem that with an unlimited number of M6s to be produced,
> > >  there would be a glut.>>
> > >
> > > I'm no economist, but the law of supply and demand would seem to hold
> that
> > a
> > > hypothetical unlimited supply of items having eternal life presents an
> > > obstacle to maintenance of high prices for such items.
> > >
> > > << 2.    If Ebay, LUG and other information-enhancing activities did n
ot
> > >  exist, would any of us keep lenses longer?  Many things you see come
up
> > >  for sale on Fridays have been owned for 40 years.  I think in the old
> > >  days trade-ins were a wash, so people just kept stuff.>>
> > >
> > > Probably.  Lack of a market place tends to keep the market quiet.
> > >
> > >  <<3.    If an M3 had no framelines, would the field be equivalent to
a
> > >  40mm lens?>>
> > >
> > > Depends on eye relief.  Eyeglass wearers sometimes complain they
cannot
> > see
> > > even the 50mm frameline.  Other users claim they can see a full 35mm
> field
> > of
> > > view, probably by pressing the camera so tightly against their faces
> that
> > > they have permanent "backdoor" imprints on their cheeks.  The literal
> > answer
> > > to the question would be that the presence or absence of framelines
does
> > not,
> > > in and of itself, have any bearing upon the field of view actually
> > > encompassed by a given finder, since the frameline is only an
indicator
> of
> > a
> > > defined field of view which must always be smaller than the finder's
> field
> > of
> > > view in order to be visible.
> > >
> > >  <<4.    Does a chrome M body with brass covers feel different from
one
> > >  with alloy covers?>>
> > >
> > > Probably feels secretly superior but outwardly humble.
> > >
> > > << 5.    Just what is Vulcanite and how do they apply it so evenly at
> the
> > >  factory?  Is it a liquid which is then embossed while on the
parts?!>>
> > >
> > > I hear tell it's a rubber compound.  My guess is they dip the camera
in
> > the
> > > stuff, then roll it around on a table top that has that pebble-grained
> > fake
> > > leather surface.  The backdoors are done separately, of course
(thought
> > you
> > > had me there, didn't you?).
> > >
> > >  <<6.    Is it really easier to load an M3 than an M4?  Seems to be
the
> > >  case - I like the pullout spool better than the poke-your-finger
> thingie
> > >  on the 4 and 6.>>
> > >
> > > Sure, if the user really believes that it is.  I am somewhat curious,
> > > however, as to how you developed the finger-poke technique.  Was that
> from
> > a
> > > book or just another manifestation of the well known"intuitive
> operation"
> > > thing about Leicas?
> > >
> > > << 7.    When you touch an LHSA or Millenium M6, can you tell by touch
> > that
> > >  the covers are CNC milled, or is that just a nasty thing someone said
> > >  here?>>
> > >
> > > The actual technique is to hold the hands a few inches above the
camera,
> > > palms down, with eyes closed, then just feel the vibrations.
> > >
> > >  <<8.    Does anyone know why Leitz/Leica makes so many iterations of
> the
> > >  same 35/50 shade when there is no identifiable functional difference?
> I
> > >  seem to be accumulating these at a scary pace.
> > >   >>
> > >
> > > I doubt they are still making all those items.  More like a succession
> of
> > > models over a period of time.  You've just been one of the fortunate
> few.
> > > Make sure you don't dump any rare old versions at obscenely low
prices!
> > As
> > > to functional differences, I believe the later models have cutouts,
> > probably
> > > for better ventilation.
> > >
> > > Hope I was able to help.
> >
> >
>

In reply to: Message from Krechtz@aol.com (Re: [Leica] Pensees (some answers))
Message from "Richard W. Harig" <deputydirmh@worldnet.att.net> (Re: [Leica] Pensees (some answers))
Message from "Roland Smith" <roland@dnai.com> (Re: [Leica] Pensees (some answers))