Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/11/11

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica R8 system to enhance an M system
From: "SML" <inyoung@jps.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:05:50 -0000
References: <B63316EB.2B0%steve@beyerphoto.com> <3A0DE122.A44E0738@home.com>

Hi Ted,

  I once heard from a couple of dealers that the German version of the
35-70/3.5 Vario-Elmar is better than the current 35-70/4 in optical
performance.  Is it true?  As far as I know and have heard, the German
version has the same optical design as the Japanese version of f3.5, which
means that they are the same in optical performance and that the current f4
is hands down winner in image quality.  What is your hands-on opinion?
  Some other people also argued that they could not find the same kind of 3D
effects (bokeh) with the R lenses as with the M lenses, which I cannot
agree.  Have you ever noticed that the R lenses could not render the same
mood of 3D effects as the M lenses?  I always thought that the R lenses were
as good as or even better than the comparable M lenses.  I normally get
better results with the R optics than with the M optics.

Regards,
David Lee

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Ted <tedgrant@home.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 12:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica R8 system to enhance an M system


> Steve Beyer wrote:
>
> > >>>>Hi Ted and Doug,
> >     Well I guess I normally shoot in the range of 20 - 300.  What is
your take on
> > lenses in this range?<<<<<<
>
> Hi Steve,
> If you feel comfortable with zoom lenses, I suggest the 80mm-200  f 4.0,
it's a very
> fine lens if you are working outside for most of the shooting. And the
35mm - 70mm,
> f2.8 , 3.5 or f4.0. The choice to make here is each one has an advantage
over the
> other.
>
> Obviously the 2.8 for aperture, not to mention it's incredible film image
cutting
> ability,  (big big bucks though)  the 3.5 (German made version) as a solid
general
> purpose lens. I have one and it's a real work horse. The  4.0 for it's
added ability
> for macro use as well as an all round lens.
>
> If your not into zooms, then a 21mm or 28,  35 and 100mm. The 280 mm 2.8
is a dream
> lens and once you start using it why there'll be times where you'll start
using it
> as a normal lens depending on the subject.  Add a 1.4 and 2X extenders and
you're
> really away to the races for long glass. However, I'd suggest you'll have
to try
> them and see if they fit your shooting requirements.
>
> ted
>
>
>
>

Replies: Reply from Ted <tedgrant@home.com> (Re: [Leica] Leica R8 system to enhance an M system)
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Message from Ted <tedgrant@home.com> (Re: [Leica] Leica R8 system to enhance an M system)