Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/11/11

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica R8 system to enhance an M system
From: "SML" <inyoung@jps.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:09:21 -0000
References: <B63316EB.2B0%steve@beyerphoto.com> <3A0DE122.A44E0738@home.com> <019c01c04c01$b378f1a0$881f8ed1@leirex> <3A0E3B0A.1270A8A4@home.com>

Hi Ted,

  I am completely in line with you even as an amateur photographer who just
enjoys Leica images.  I had better close my ears to those techie talks as
you did/do.  Thank you so much for your input.

Best Regards,
David

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Ted <tedgrant@home.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica R8 system to enhance an M system


> SML wrote:
>
> > Hi Ted,
> >
> >  >>> I once heard from a couple of dealers that the German version of
the
> > 35-70/3.5 Vario-Elmar is better than the current 35-70/4 in optical
> > performance.  Is it true?  <<<<<<<
>
> Hi David,
> Sorry I can't comment, as I've never used the f4.0. I do know that my 3.5
is a
> very good lens which I use as a general working lens because I can change
focal
> length quickly and the recorded images have an excellent look to them.
>
> >>>>>>>Some other people also argued that they could not find the same
kind of
> 3D
> effects (bokeh) with the R lenses as with the M lenses, which I cannot
> agree.<<<<<<<<<
>
> Well you see I never knew what the hell bokeh was until the subject came
up on
> the LUG and I've never thought about that kind of stuff simply because I
always
> thought the most important part of taking pictures was the part that was
in
> focus!
>
> I suppose its a big deal for some folks, but hell I'd much rather folks
were
> looking at my pictures for the content and impact,  not whether the the
out of
> focus part was good, bad or ugly!
>
> >>Have you ever noticed that the R lenses could not render the same mood
of 3D
> effects as the M lenses? <<
>
> Gee, you know I never wondered about stuff like that in my 50 year career
as a
> professional photographer simply because the bottom line has always
been....
> "How good the picture was!"
>
> >>>>>I always thought that the R lenses were as good as or even better
than the
> comparable M lenses.  I normally get better results with the R optics than
with
> the M optics.<<<<<<<<
>
> I hope you don't think I'm belittling your questions, but this also falls
into
> something I've never ever thought about.  To me from the beginning of
using
> Leica equipment, if it was Leica it was the best there was and that was
all that
> counted. I can very honestly say in all the years of using Leica, must be
> somewhere over 40 years now, many of the techie things that appear on the
LUG
> screen are items I never thought about . Nor still don't think about.
>
> My main concern was / is  to be a damn good photographer with the least
amount
> of fuss in taking my pictures and the Leica allows me to do that with a
quality
> I appreciate. So when technical questions are asked, I  apologize simply
because
> much of  the technical stuff never concerned me the way it does so many
LUG/LEG
> members.
>
> I'm a photojournalist concerned with capturing moments that have motivated
me to
> press the shutter release.  How that image is captured and how many
thingies the
> lens records on the film, I could care less as long as it's the lens that
does
> the job right!
>
> Bottom line? If the picture is good, bad or ugly 99.9 % of the public and
buyers
> of photographers and photography could care less if the picture were
recorded
> with a Leica lens or through a coke bottle bottom!
>
> And that's the real world!  Like it or lump it.
>
> ted
>
>

In reply to: Message from Steve Beyer <steve@beyerphoto.com> (Re: [Leica] Leica R8 system to enhance an M system)
Message from Ted <tedgrant@home.com> (Re: [Leica] Leica R8 system to enhance an M system)
Message from "SML" <inyoung@jps.net> (Re: [Leica] Leica R8 system to enhance an M system)
Message from Ted <tedgrant@home.com> (Re: [Leica] Leica R8 system to enhance an M system)