Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/02/27

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Noctilux Canada or Germany?
From: Jem Kime <jem.kime@cwcom.net>
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:36:34 -0000

Ray,
I think I met 'Mr Voigtlander' in Germany at Photokina, his name is Jurgen 
Sprung and, rather poetically I thought, he worked for Voigtlander many 
years ago. His card says 'vertriebsleiter' which might clarify exactly what 
his position is, but within Ringfoto, the company who bought the rights to 
the Voigtlander brandname, he is charge of Voigtlander.
Certainly his concern for the Voigtlander brand couldn't have been placed 
in better hands and I would consider that Ringfoto would be most pleased 
with the results of their relationship with Cosina. I'm unaware of what 
Cosina would pay them for the license to use the Voigtlander brandname but 
I suspect that when the time comes fro renegotiation they will be even 
happier!

I think the use of the designation, 'Voigtlander, Germany' is Cosina taking 
as much as they can from their license. Patently the lenses are not made 
there but Voigtlander orignated there, so therefore, 'Voigtlander, Germany' 
is where Voigtlander were, and still are, in as much as a name can be 
anywhere! Cosina are just maximising what they can get out of buying the 
right to use the name, as any business would. Misleading to none but the 
extremely naive.

Talking about the success of the Voigtlander to others yesterday at 'Focus' 
I was left with the impression that predominant sales are in Europe and the 
US distribution is less than satisfactory. Can U.S. luggers clarify who 
imports the brand and what their presence is on the marketing scene?

Jem
- -----Original Message-----
From:	ray tai [SMTP:razerx@netvigator.com]
Sent:	27 February 2001 15:54

Cosina may not have connections to Germany (as far as I can assume) but the
Voigtlander brand certainly does and this is what matters.  I don't know 
the
current legal status of the Voigtlander brand and who owns the various
intellectual property rights but you can be sure that whoever it is will 
not let
its goodwill diminish out of history, passion or profit.

Anyway I think we are talking about different things.  Perhaps it is in 
poor
taste to include "Germany" in the packaging but don't assume it was all 
Cosina's
doing.

Ray

Replies: Reply from Marc James Small <msmall@roanoke.infi.net> ([Leica] The Voigtlander Reputation)
Reply from ray tai <razerx@netvigator.com> (Re: [Leica] Noctilux Canada or Germany?)