Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/05/13

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Voigtlander 21/f4
From: "onetreehillclw" <onetreehillclw@compaq.net>
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 18:44:37 -0500
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I almost always use XP2 when I test new lenses.  
Very sharp 400 b&w. Even with 20x24 prints.
I'd like to see the Neopan 1600 results. It's a very
sharp film for that high of speed.

Chris Williams



- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S Dimitrov" <sld@earthlink.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Voigtlander 21/f4


> Hi Christer:
> 
> I'm testing this 21mm for my style of photography. Most often handheld
> and under obscene lighting conditions. For the tripod work, I reserve it
> for shooting in 5x7, sometimes 4x5, and once in a great while 120.
> If the the grain starts breaking up then I've gone beyond the limits of
> the materials. That's when I step up in format. 
> 
> I had a Kobalux 28mm once, and while sharp, it had a disappointing
> flatness in the midrange that made me sell it after a couple of months
> of trial. The quality work from the Cosina products, however, has been
> somewhat of a surprise. Matching and outperforming the Leitz lenses from
> the early 70's and down. I don't come blindly to this conclusion, as
> I've owned over 60 Leitz lenses in the past 30 years, with plenty of
> negatives to justify my opinion.
> 
> For 35mm work I rarely go beyond 6x8 floated on a sheet of 8x10. With
> 120, my basic size is 6.5 square again floated on a sheet of 8x10. Every
> now and then I get squeezed to do an "11x14" print, which to me is a 9x9
> image floated on the 11x14 paper. With 4x5 negs I print full bleed on
> 8x10 and
> 11x14, as there is no perceptible distinction between the two sizes
> quality wise.
> 
> 
> Best,
>  Slobodan
> 
> 
> 
> Christer Almqvist wrote:
> > 
> > If  you test with 400 film it will be difficult to say anything about
> > the performance of  the lens used. With 1600 it will be almost
> > impossible. What you need for testing is 100 film, top notch
> > development ...

Replies: Reply from S Dimitrov <sld@earthlink.net> (Re: [Leica] Voigtlander 21/f4)
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Message from Christer Almqvist <christer@almqvist.net> (Re: [Leica] Voigtlander 21/f4)
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