Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/06/22

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Home depot and the rest
From: S Dimitrov <sld@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:18:02 -0700
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The contractor, not being a creditialed journalist, would have to have
an intent other that 1st amend. usage, i.e. public's right to know.
Nothing obscure about that I hope.

Slobodan Dimitrov


Andrew Schroter wrote:
> 
> Perhaps, before venturing out on such photo expeditions it is best to be
> armed with copies of the appropriate legal opinions that buttress your
> position.  If the rent-a-cops don't heed, the Blue badges will certainly
> have to heed, lest they be hit with false arrest charges.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic@hotmail.com>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Home depot and the rest
> 
> > S Dimitrov writes:
> >
> > > Well, I made it up.
> >
> > How does this conduct differ from that of a rent-a-cop harassing a
> photographer?
> >
> > > The contractors, on the other hand, clearly
> > > had "other intents," and therefore is not
> > > protected under the 1st amend as such.
> >
> > Clear or not, it is not your business to police them.
> >
> > > The contractors, on the other hand, clearly had
> > > "other intents," and therefore is not protected
> > > under the 1st amend as such.
> >
> > Were you acting as their legal counsel?
> >
> > > Now, what those intents where, only a formal
> > > investigation with a  proscribed mechanism
> > > under the law could of deduced it.
> >
> > This statement conflicts with your previous statement, in which you said
> that
> > the contracts "clearly had 'other intents.'"  How can you know that they
> had
> > other intents if only a formal investigation would be capable of
> uncovering
> > them?
> >
> > > In other words, either a police investigation
> > > or a civil lawsuit.
> >
> > Then perhaps it is best left up to the police and the lawyers, no?
> >
> > > Considering how volatile the environment is,
> > > with regard to lawsuits, what where the odds
> > > in that up-scale neighborhood that some member
> > > of the public would of seen the videotaping as
> > > intrusive, and worthy of their time to address it?
> >
> > I'd guess at least ten thousand to one.  No member of the public would
> really
> > care.
> >
> > It sounds like you have quite a double standard.  This does not seem
> conducive
> > to maintaining First-Amendment freedoms or the freedom to photograph
> generally.

Replies: Reply from "Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic@hotmail.com> (Re: [Leica] Home depot and the rest)
In reply to: Message from "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@ix.netcom.com> (RE: [Leica] Home depot and the rest)
Message from "Bryan Caldwell" <bcaldwell@softcom.net> (Re: [Leica] Home depot and the rest)
Message from S Dimitrov <sld@earthlink.net> (Re: [Leica] Home depot and the rest)
Message from "Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic@hotmail.com> (Re: [Leica] Home depot and the rest)
Message from S Dimitrov <sld@earthlink.net> (Re: [Leica] Home depot and the rest)
Message from "Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic@hotmail.com> (Re: [Leica] Home depot and the rest)
Message from Andrew Schroter <schroter@optonline.net> (Re: [Leica] Home depot and the rest)