Re: [Leica] Film survey

[TTAbrahams@aol.com]

In a message dated 1/10/02 11:27:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
Teresa299@aol.com writes:
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 Date:  1/10/02 11:27:26 AM Pacific Standard Time
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 In a message dated 1/10/02 10:48:39 AM, feli@d2.com writes:
  > For interesting black/white I use AGFAPAN 250. This is a movie stock that 
 the
 > local AGFA rep gave me years ago. They had a mixed bag of emulsions and
 > rather than sending it for destruction, he offered it to me. Comes  in 400
 > feet rolls and over the years I have shot about 4000 feet of it. Still have
 > 1600 feet left. It is an old style emulsion, rich in silver and biased to
 > mid-tones. It does tend to make everybody look like Marlene Dietrich. High
 > basefog but prints well. Usually I rate it at ASA 200 and run it in PMK, 
but
 > it can be rated at 320 and developed in D-76 too.
 > Occasionally you can get Kodak Duplicating film (used for turning negs into
 > positives). It seems to have an unlimited shelve life and I use it at 80 
ASA
 > and develop in Beutler. Very tight grain and smooth mid-tones.
 > Tom A

> I really wish AGFA still made that stock, it really looks great.
> I tried buying some for my film and was told its no longer available.
> Rats. 
> feli >>

> Are there any films out there that approach this defunct emulsion?
> -kim

Kim,
The only film that would come close would be the Super XX emulsion from 
Kodak. I have not tried it in its new incarnation, but the original Super XX 
was pretty close to the AgfaPan 250. It does depend on what you soup it in 
too. D 76 works well, although the basefog is higher than what we usually 
see. Rodinal works well, although the grain is noticeable. Old style 
developer like D-23/D-25 usually needs some of Kodak's Anti-Fog pills in the 
developer and a subsequent reduction of filmspeed. You could also try the 
original movie stock developers, Kodak's D-93 (? as I cannot remember the 
exact designation for it) and Fuji has one too. These tend to be very low 
contrast developer (film was processed as negative and then duped onto 
duplicating film and the contrast was controlled at that stage. They are fun 
films to play with, particularly with old, uncoated lenses. You will end up 
with prints looking like 30's style shots. Shades of Rodchenko, etc.

Tom A

Tom Abrahamsson
Vancouver, BC
Canada
www.rapidwinder.com
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