Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/01/15

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Subject: Re: [Leica] M6TTL vs "Classic" question
From: "Steve LeHuray" <icommag@toad.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 07:30:18 -0500

> John--
> Thanks for your thoughtful answers.
> As to limited supply of "classic" electronics -- OUCH -- I hadn't
> thought of that.
> Obviously I'm pondering whether to get a nice clean (somewhat
> inexpensive) "classic" or a TTL as a backup to my .72 "Classic".
> [Actually, I have 2 M2s and an M4 but I really like the meter.]  My
> tendency is to get the 'newest' as long as there isn't some trap.
> That is NOT to say I'm waiting for an M7! For me the TTL is new.
> thanks again,
> John
>
John,

I also have two M2s and a M3 along with two M6TTLs. My feeling when using
the old vs the new is that they are the same but different and I have no
trouble switching between them. In a way I prefer the older models for their
simplicity and the new for their convenience. But the bottom line is they
all work equally well and it comes down to personal preference. For last
years PAW I used the M6s for only 12 of the 52 weeks.

sl

>
>
>>
>>1) Slightly, but only useful if you plan on using a tripod or like motion
>>induced blur from 1 sec handheld.
>>
>>2) I cannot feel the difference myself but others claim to be able to. It
>>may depend on how you hold the camera. I use a M2, M4-2 and a TTL. I feel
>>comfortable switching between bodies.
>>
>>3) All the mechanical parts are virtually identical. The only differences
>>are to accommodate a idler gear to facilitate the larger shutter speed dial.
>>The electronics are significantly different but there is only a limited
>>supply of classic electronics left now as the stuff was very old fashioned
>>(electronically speaking). How long a repair supply they have on hand for
>>the classic or if they can retrofit something, I do not know.
>>
>>John Collier
>>
>>>  From: "John R. Fulton Jr." <JRFjr@compuserve.com>
>>>
>>>  1) Is the meter more sensitive than the "classic"? In other words, if
>>>  you have a 50 Summicron on the classic and go into a dark environment
>>>  the meter will stop reading at a certain darkness (pretty technical,
>>>  huh?). Anyway, if you then switch to the TTL with same lens will it
>>>  read another stop or two into the darkness that the "classic" would
>>>  not?
>>>
>>>  2) Does the 2.5 mm in additional size seem to matter? Does it feel
>>>  different? (This coming from a man with medium-to-small hands
>>>  who--when working on the street--wraps the neckstrap around my wrist
>>>  and holds the camera in my hand.)
>>>
>>>  3) Is there any feeling what the repair people say about the two
>>>  cameras? Is the TTL as reliable as the "classic"? I know many feel
>>>  the "classic" isn't that great from a reliability standpoint. My M6
>>>  went back for a warranty repair on the transport in first year of
>>>  ownership--1988--but no problems since. It still has the red "Leitz"
>>  > button on the front. (I carry and use it everyday--it's a user).
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