Re: [Leica] Thoughts on the M8 for real ?????

["Ted Bayer" <tedbayer@harbornet.com>]

Thank you, Henry.  Your intelligent response is noted.

Ted in Olalla

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From: "Henry Ting" <henryting10@yahoo.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Thoughts on the M8 for real ?????


>
> It always happen when someone wants to talk about film
> or Leica related topics, someone will barge in with an
> abundance of words -- "meaning a waste of time for
> their attention" and yet post a lengthy response
> having absolutely nothing to do with Leica or
> photography, advising others to use the "delete" key.
> Well my friend, your response equates to a "10000"
> delete keys, and yet offer nothing remotely related to
> films, photography or Leica.
> Please do use your "delete" key, but save us from your
> intellectual smartass response.
>
> --- Ted Bayer <tedbayer@harbornet.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks:
> >
> > I find all this talk about an M8 digital and lousy
> > processing by Kodak
> > rather useless other than to alert some of us
> > less-than-informed people
> > to be sensible and buy one of the many other brands
> > of film or cameras
> > and avoid all the hassles (I know, that's not
> > likely, either, but at
> > least it can give us some hope).  So there is a
> > positive side to it.
> >
> > But let's pause for a moment and consider the
> > alternatives.
> >
> > First, if you want to go digital, do it.  But don't
> > waste your time or
> > mine harping about what is or what will be when we
> > all know that it
> > ain't gonna happen.
> >
> > Kodak could give a (call it what you will) about how
> > you or I feel when
> > a film goes south.  You pays your money and you get
> > what you get.  End
> > of story.
> >
> > As for a digital Leica - you've got one.  To make
> > the M whatever into a
> > digital isn't going to happen.  So please, go on to
> > something more
> > productive and save us all a lot of effort on the
> > delete key.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Ted in Olalla
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Henry Ting" <henryting10@yahoo.com>
> > To: "Leica-users"
> > <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 2:11 PM
> > Subject: [Leica] Thoughts on the M8 for real ?????
> >
> >
> > >
> > > As far as Leica is concerned, due to the demand of
> > a
> > > digital M8 that can use all the existing lens of
> > our
> > > current M, no doubt is tempting for Leica to
> > pursue,
> > > both in riding on the success of the M and the
> > > Leicaphiles' desire to get into digital. However,
> > to
> > > get into the digital arena, Leica will have to
> > rely on
> > > non-German OEM to supply the electronic bodies.
> > This
> > > is no small task. For any OEM to revamp what Leica
> > > wants from R&D to signing off the product design
> > it
> > > has to commit to a long-term relationship which
> > > guarantees financial incentive for them to go into
> > > partnership. Leica has never been a company to
> > market
> > > its product for the mass. It is at best a niche in
> > > this market and ONLY if we all will dish out an
> > > extraordinary amount of cash injection, will this
> > > partnership between Leica and OEM work. The danger
> > > here is while we all support Leica's film/35mm
> > medium,
> > > a total digitalize M8 at best utilizing existing
> > lens
> > > with no zoom, nor all the bells and whistles of
> > the
> > > current state-of-the-art digital camera, will not
> > > attract new Leica users that are currently using
> > > Nikons or Minoltas to switch to Leica digital.
> > Then on
> > > the other hand, if the M8 is to come with zoom,
> > LCD
> > > screen, flash, zooms etc etc etc....then where is
> > the
> > > similarity between the M and the M8. Such a
> > digital
> > > camera will take to the form more akin to the
> > > Asian-designed body as well as function rather
> > than
> > > the M. Also the technology, in digital domain,
> > with
> > > desktop scanners, printers etc, can process any
> > > developed film, pictures into digital. Now one can
> > > argue that the M lens will be superior to any,
> > > compared with the current class of digital zooms;
> > well
> > > I think the zoom lens is already proven to be
> > > perfectly adequate for digitalizing any imagery.
> > > Personally I just don't see any OEM will partner
> > such
> > > venture given the current state of mind-set
> > between
> > > the M and the rest of the digital systems.
> > >
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