Re: [Leica] Thoughts on the M8 for real ?????

[Henry Ting <henryting10@yahoo.com>]

It always happen when someone wants to talk about film
or Leica related topics, someone will barge in with an
abundance of words -- "meaning a waste of time for
their attention" and yet post a lengthy response
having absolutely nothing to do with Leica or
photography, advising others to use the "delete" key. 
Well my friend, your response equates to a "10000"
delete keys, and yet offer nothing remotely related to
films, photography or Leica.
Please do use your "delete" key, but save us from your
intellectual smartass response.

- --- Ted Bayer <tedbayer@harbornet.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks:
> 
> I find all this talk about an M8 digital and lousy
> processing by Kodak
> rather useless other than to alert some of us
> less-than-informed people
> to be sensible and buy one of the many other brands
> of film or cameras
> and avoid all the hassles (I know, that's not
> likely, either, but at
> least it can give us some hope).  So there is a
> positive side to it.
> 
> But let's pause for a moment and consider the
> alternatives.
> 
> First, if you want to go digital, do it.  But don't
> waste your time or
> mine harping about what is or what will be when we
> all know that it
> ain't gonna happen.
> 
> Kodak could give a (call it what you will) about how
> you or I feel when
> a film goes south.  You pays your money and you get
> what you get.  End
> of story.
> 
> As for a digital Leica - you've got one.  To make
> the M whatever into a
> digital isn't going to happen.  So please, go on to
> something more
> productive and save us all a lot of effort on the
> delete key.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Ted in Olalla
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Henry Ting" <henryting10@yahoo.com>
> To: "Leica-users"
> <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 2:11 PM
> Subject: [Leica] Thoughts on the M8 for real ?????
> 
> 
> >
> > As far as Leica is concerned, due to the demand of
> a
> > digital M8 that can use all the existing lens of
> our
> > current M, no doubt is tempting for Leica to
> pursue,
> > both in riding on the success of the M and the
> > Leicaphiles' desire to get into digital. However,
> to
> > get into the digital arena, Leica will have to
> rely on
> > non-German OEM to supply the electronic bodies.
> This
> > is no small task. For any OEM to revamp what Leica
> > wants from R&D to signing off the product design
> it
> > has to commit to a long-term relationship which
> > guarantees financial incentive for them to go into
> > partnership. Leica has never been a company to
> market
> > its product for the mass. It is at best a niche in
> > this market and ONLY if we all will dish out an
> > extraordinary amount of cash injection, will this
> > partnership between Leica and OEM work. The danger
> > here is while we all support Leica's film/35mm
> medium,
> > a total digitalize M8 at best utilizing existing
> lens
> > with no zoom, nor all the bells and whistles of
> the
> > current state-of-the-art digital camera, will not
> > attract new Leica users that are currently using
> > Nikons or Minoltas to switch to Leica digital.
> Then on
> > the other hand, if the M8 is to come with zoom,
> LCD
> > screen, flash, zooms etc etc etc....then where is
> the
> > similarity between the M and the M8. Such a
> digital
> > camera will take to the form more akin to the
> > Asian-designed body as well as function rather
> than
> > the M. Also the technology, in digital domain,
> with
> > desktop scanners, printers etc, can process any
> > developed film, pictures into digital. Now one can
> > argue that the M lens will be superior to any,
> > compared with the current class of digital zooms;
> well
> > I think the zoom lens is already proven to be
> > perfectly adequate for digitalizing any imagery.
> > Personally I just don't see any OEM will partner
> such
> > venture given the current state of mind-set
> between
> > the M and the rest of the digital systems.
> >
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