Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/04/05
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The M's are my primary system. I guess I'll have to learn to live with my "limited" range of 12 to 135mm. As for longer tele fast lenses with Leica M, who the hell could afford a Leica M 300 2.8? What's the price, $6000? or more? Chris Williams New Orleans - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Javier Perez" <summarex@yahoo.com> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [Leica] Did Leica miss the boat on the M7 viewfinder? > Focusing very fast long lenses is a problem > if you have high res optics and want to make > large prints. With a long enough base and > magnification you could focus them more accurately > than you could with the eye through a viewfinder. > This is right up Leitz' alley if the should choose > to develop it. > > As for the M system being near useless, > if you call being limited to focal lengths from 15 to > 135 and no CV zooming useful, stick with it. As for > me, I like to take long shots on occasion without > having to bring along a second system.;-))Finally, ask > yourself why about 90% of the people on this list have > another system, usually reflex and it's usually their > primary system. > Later > Javier > > > > --- Mark Cohen <markc@binaryfaith.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Javier, > > > > I find it interesting that you claim the M system to > > be near useless. How > > can a viewfinder make a system useless or near > > useless? Why would a 300m > > f2.8 lens make a near useless sytem less useless? > > > > I for one find the M system to be many times more > > usefull than any other > > camera. > > > > For what its worth, I shoot or have shot a very wide > > variety of cameras. > > From process cameras in printing to digital cameras. > > (16x20, 8x10, 4x5, > > Hasselblad 500c, Mamiya RB/RZ 67, Rollei 35, Leica M > > sytem and R system, > > Pentax 6x7, Pentax K1000, and Holga/Diana cameras. > > > > Im sorry you think the M system isn't a usefull > > system, maybe some day you > > will figure out how to use it. ;) > > > > -Mark > > > > > > > > On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Javier Perez wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > A zoom viewfinder is something they should offer > > as an > > > option for those who need it. If they don't offer > > it, > > > it's because they are stupid. A zoom VF would open > > the > > > near useless M system to a whole new range of fast > > > long lenses. Taking it to an extreme they could > > corner > > > the largely non existent high speed telephoto RF > > > market. I'm certain an RF small enough to fit on > > top > > > of a camera chassis that can focus a 300 2.8 more > > > accurately than TTL is doable. > > > Javier > > > > > > > > > --- Mark Cohen <markc@binaryfaith.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Zoom lenses don't compare to fixed focal > > length > > > > lenses for sharpness. > > > > Why would leica want to reduce the quality of > > their > > > > M line? > > > > 2. The viewfinder in the M series has always > > been > > > > the way it is because a > > > > ajor selling point for the M was the ability to > > see > > > > more information in > > > > the frame so that you could compose > > intelligently. A > > > > zoom finder would > > > > degrade that ability. > > > > 3. If you want a zoom finder in a rangefinder, > > why > > > > not get a Contax G2? > > > > > > > > It would be a quantum leap for leica to do what > > you > > > > suggested, a leap > > > > _backwards_ > > > > > > > > -Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, jfrankel wrote: > > > > > > > > > From what I can tell, Leica did not use a zoom > > > > view finder on the new M7. > > > > > Was this a mistake? > > > > > Could they have ushered in a new generation of > > M > > > > zoom lenses? > > > > > Could they have made a zoom viewfinder that > > would > > > > have been backwards > > > > > compatible with existing lenses? > > > > > It seems to me that a new M number would be a > > good > > > > time to take this quantum > > > > > leap. > > > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > To unsubscribe, see > > > > > > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > To unsubscribe, see > > > > > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! 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