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Subject: RE: [Leica] Epson 2000P, An update and another ?
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 13:11:59 -0400

One of the things that seems to be going on here is that people are talking
about two very different things, and one group is unaware that there are two
conversations going on:

Both groups use or want to use Epson printers, but one group takes its
printers out of their boxes, inserts Epson cartridges, installs the
printers, and prints images; the other group is using those same printers
with third party inks and software - they may be called Epson printers, but
in terms of their function and output, they aren't Epson printers.

So when you talk about archival inks, print longevity, print time, output
resolution, etc., you have to know which group you are communicating with.


B. D.

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Darrell
Jennings
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:48 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] Epson 2000P, An update and another ?


I'm not sure if I am looking at the same printer, but
in viewing the Epson web site, the 3000 has a list
price of $995 (seems like a refurbished machine would
be a lot less than $900 if we are talking about the
same machine), and does not say that it accepts
archival inks.  It also is only a four color vs. six
for the 2000.  Am I looking at the one you are
referring to?  Any thoughts on how the four vs. six
(or now with the 2200, seven) color machines work?


- --- Andrew Moore <dmm@bronze.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> > >A question for all.  Does anyone other than Epson
> make
> > >a high quality archival printer for under $2000
> that
> > >makes prints of at least 11X14?
> >
> > Jon Cone has said that the 3000 is the perfect
> printer for Piezography.  It
> > is a big, workhorse of a printer and can do prints
> larger than 11x14.  I
> > bought my two refurbished on EBay for $900 apiece
> and have never had any
> > problems with either one.  They have huge ink
> cartridges so you don't need
> > the Continuous Ink System.  All kinds of archival
> inks in both black and
> > white and color are available for the 3000.
>
> I finally decided on the 3000 mainly due to the
> larger format (it will
> print full 16 x 21 (i.e. none of that space taken up
> by white borders),
> and as tina mentioned the big cartridges are nice.
> I was also glad to see
> that the cartridges are individual ones, not one
> conglomerate cartridge
> containing all four colors.  That way when one color
> runs out I'm not
> forced to throw all of them away together.
>
> Now I'm just awaiting the correct piezo CD -- should
> arrive today -- (they
> sent me the wrong one) and I'll finish up the
> tests/flushing/etc. and
> tonight I'll hopefully run my first print.
>
> Clear some space on the desktop; the printer is just
> over 2.5 feet wide!
>
> I've heard complaints about the "pizza wheel tracks"
> and the mechanism
> that feeds the paper through (sometimes doesn't push
> it through very well
> and as a result the image gets compressed a bit) --
> but I have yet to
> determine if this is myth or reality.  Pizza wheel
> problem is easy to fix
> (remove them, plenty docs on the net about this).
>
>
>
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