Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/07/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]No. Someone pointed out that the airport checkpoints encroach on rights against unreasonable search and seizure. My feeling is that, under the circumstances, one cannot rely on the Bill of Rights applying here (including freedom of speech and right to bear arms). My comment was that nobody who wrote the Bill of Rights had any reason to believe that people would do something called hijacking of something called a jet plane or that people would use something called x-rays in a something called an airport to prevent something called terrorism. And what are you so pissed off about? Jeffery At 11:10 AM 7/10/02, you wrote: >So, are you implying that the Right to Bear Arms should apply on >airplanes??? Even >taking the silly legalistic point of view, an airplane is private >property, and as >far as I know the owner of a private property has the right to restrict people >from bringing in weapons onto that property, or any other items for that >matter. > >This whole debate is plain silly. Yes, security precautions are >inconvenient, but >what is the alternative? I just flew from Zurich to Tel Aviv and back. I >assure >you that the checks at Tel Aviv airport in particular are most >inconvenient, and >it is certainly not pleasant having to show up 2 1/2 hour early for an 8 a.m. >flight--but I also know that no El Al plane has been hijacked in the past 25 >years, and I am grateful for the safety. And by the way, in most airports >outside >the U.S. the security checks are carried out by professional, properly >trained law >enforcement officers, not minimum-wage rent-a-cops. > >Nathan > >Jeffery Smith wrote: > > > Whenever someone invokes the old "we are at war" clause (which G.W. does > > incessantly), it seems that the Bill of Rights goes on the back burner. > > Before 9/11, the airlines had to revoke Freedom of Speech (yes, people > > making offhand remarks got bounced from flights) and Right to Bear Arms, > > and they have had to take the search and seizure thing one rung higher. > > Apparently our founding fathers didn't think of terrorism when they penned > > those rights (and this was only 3 years after America's first act of > > terrorism...the Boston Tea Party!). > >-- >Nathan Wajsman >Herrliberg (ZH), Switzerland > >e-mail: wajsman@webshuttle.ch >mobile: +41 78 732 1430 > >Photo-A-Week: http://www.wajsman.com/indexpaw2002.htm >General photo site: http://www.wajsman.com/index.htm > > > >-- >To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html