Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/08/22

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Subject: RE: [Leica] RE: R9 scoop
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 15:08:42 -0400

So once again, it of course all comes down to personal preference...I don't
find the F100 bogs me down with choices, as I only use a few features - I
often have it in manual exposure mode and spot metering ;-, and no more use
it as a point and shoot than I do my M. And it works beautifully for me. By
the same token, when I'm using the M, I would echo everything you say about
that.

I know this thread has gone on for far too long - btw, don't forget if
people hadn't been responding, it would have ended :-) - but I still think
many people have missed my main point. And that is not that the R8 is a bad
camera, but rather that it and the entire R line have not been a smart
business move for Leica: the number of people out there who want what is
essentially a manual SLR, and a large, oddly designed, expensive one at
that - whether or not you happen to like the size and design - grows small
by the day. Again, for all the defense of the camera, not one LUGer has
really responded to the undeniable fact that revenue from the R line, as
reported by Leica, has been dropping precipitously at the same time the M
sales have gone up...

B. D.

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of George
Lottermoser
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 2:13 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] RE: R9 scoop


B. D. Colenbdcolen@earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)8/22/021:20 PM

>list, but when someone expresses contrary opinions about "your" camera,
>that person is "ranting." :-)

Perhaps I did choose the wrong word with "rant". I don't mind contrary
opinions about gear. To
each his/her own. I just don't understand declarations (hopefully not too
harsh a word :-0) which
suggest that one feature or another, or lack of one feature or another make
a particular piece of
gear, or manufacturer more than or less than some other piece of gear or
manufacturer.

>As to KISS, nothing is more KISS than putting an AF SLR on apperature
>priority and firing away. ;-)

When I had N90 and F5 gear I tried to see it that way - for years. But for
me the cameras became a
mindless point and shoots. Great for fast action stuff, which I rarely
shoot. When I wanted to
make some decisions, different than the chosen mode's, I had to go through a
bunch of screens and
button combinations which never seemed related to simple aperture ring,
shutter ring, focus,
shoot. Never enjoyed the point and shoot modality. I missed that other and
different kind of
simplicity that comes with manual mode, where the mind/body experience
simply works with a
mechanical tool in the hand. So all the bells and whistles went unused. I
say this not to sell or
defend my preferences or disparage other's. Probably speaks more to my age
and decades of M and
Nikon F use. I can easily imagine assignments which would send me out
shopping for auto everything
gear. Fortunately or unfortunately - I don't have any such assignments.

Whenever I hear about the mavericks out there who have the R to EOS adapter,
I experience lust for
a Canon digital body with said adapter. Not a matter of if but when.

George
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