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Subject: RE: [Leica] Canadians, slavery and the health care system: OT...oh and Nazis too [No Nazis]
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 13:25:35 -0400

Huh?

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Phong
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 1:01 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] Canadians, slavery and the health care system:
OT...oh and Nazis too [No Nazis]


> And, yes, some Canadians - who can afford to - come to the U.S. for care
> rather than wait for certain procedures in Canada.

I ask rhetorically: the reverse is true, isn't it ?

- - Phong

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of B. D. Colen
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 10:04 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Canadians, slavery and the health care system:
> OT...oh and Nazis too
>
>
> John - The point most Americans miss about the Canadian health care system
> is that doctors don't flee Canada because the health care system in your
> country doesn't work - they flee Canada to make more money in the U.S. And
> that doesn't have anything to do with the quality of health care in either
> country.
>
> And, yes, some Canadians - who can afford to - come to the U.S. for care
> rather than wait for certain procedures in Canada. But it's odd that one
> hasn't seen any investigative pieces - or AMA sponsored studies - showing
> that any Canadians have died or become sicker because of waits for
elective
> procedures in Canada.
>
> B. D.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of John
> Collier
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:49 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: [Leica] Canadians, slavery and the health care system: OT...oh
> and Nazis too
>
>
> Ehh! Of course we had slaves up here in Canada. Being part of the
> Commonwealth, we got out of it when England did. Unfortunately I would
> not consider that the same as never having had slavery in the first
> place. I definitely do not think that it gives us any moral high ground
> over the US or even the Sudan (and others) where it still goes on today.
>
> I have never figured out why the Canadian health care system gets some
> people all riled up. It is not perfect by any means but I can assure you
> it works very well. In independent studies, it delivers better health
> care at a significantly lower cost than other places quite close to us.
> You do not have to like it or adopt it but please let us enjoy it in
> peace!
>
> As to the whole Nazi thing...I was delighted to read about the role of
> the Leitz family and company in the last issue of the Viewfinder. They
> are examples to us all.
>
> John Collier
>
>
>
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