Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/09/26

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Downloadable Erwin Puts Book - OFF-LIST
From: glouton@citechco.net
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 23:42:33 +0600
References: <002101c2657a$a57726a0$39567450@rob>

Is this a private communicaton? I am confused.
Pierre Claquin


At 01:03 PM 9/26/02 -0400, you wrote:
>This is a private communication Rob, because I do not care to get into a
>public pissing match with you, nor, for that matter, to I want this to be a
>pissing match of any kind.
>
>But let me ask you two questions:
>
>1. Do you really think that Erwin Puts GAVE Leica that PDF to publish? That
>he did not receive any kind of compensation for allowing a corporation to
>benefit from all that work?
>
>2. Suppose I published my photo work on diabetics, and didn't acknowledge
>the fact that it was commissioned and paid for by a drug company? Wouldn't
>that be gross conflict of interest, and ethical violation? Of course it
>would, because people judging the work would have no way to know if it
>presented an honest picture of the lives of diabetics, or produced a picture
>the pharmaceutical company wanted shown.
>
>Well, when Erwin Puts claims to be an independent expert when he reviews
>Leica products, but does work of any kind for Leica, he is misleading the
>people who make buying decisions on the basis of what they believe to be
>independent evaluations. I know that you understand that.
>
>By the way - how about we try to keep our political disagreements out of our
>on-list exchanges. Because you and I know full-well that your repeated
>disagreements with me on-list began AFTER you learned during our off-list
>exchange that we disagree about the Palestinian/Israeli conflict.
>
>B. D.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Rob Appleby
>Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 12:35 PM
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Downloadable Erwin Puts Book
>
>
>As far as I can see, he isn't taking anything from Leica, he's given them
>the pdf to publish. Good for him. Where's the problem?
>
>This really is one of your idées fixes, BD.
>
>-- Rob
>
>http://www.robertappleby.com
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>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
>To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 4:19 PM
>Subject: RE: [Leica] Downloadable Erwin Puts Book
>
>
>> Steve - and all the others of you who I know will instantly leap to
>Erwin's
>> "defense:"
>>
>> There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with Erwin's acting as a consultant to
>> Leica or any other company. More power to him.
>>
>> But I seem to recall that Mr. Puts went to great lengths to proclaim his
>> independence from Leica. This is the guy who said he never took ANYTHING
>> from Leica.
>>
>> If you don't see a conflict here, Steve, I sure feel sorry for the
>> subscribers to your publications.
>>
>> And by the way, "slut?" If I whore for anyone Steve, I'll be the first to
>> tell my readers I'm getting paid for what I do.
>>
>> B. D.
>>
>>
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