Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/09/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]B.D. You seem to be the frequent instigator of the stressful attacks that come on this user group. I sure wish you would behave yourself or find another venue. Our list master in musing about closing the list which would be a major loss to many of us that are here to learn about photography and not rude behavior. I am on the list for what I can learn and not for your poor behavior. Roland Smith Oakland, California - ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:03 AM Subject: RE: [Leica] Downloadable Erwin Puts Book - OFF-LIST > This is a private communication Rob, because I do not care to get into a > public pissing match with you, nor, for that matter, to I want this to be a > pissing match of any kind. > > But let me ask you two questions: > > 1. Do you really think that Erwin Puts GAVE Leica that PDF to publish? That > he did not receive any kind of compensation for allowing a corporation to > benefit from all that work? > > 2. Suppose I published my photo work on diabetics, and didn't acknowledge > the fact that it was commissioned and paid for by a drug company? Wouldn't > that be gross conflict of interest, and ethical violation? Of course it > would, because people judging the work would have no way to know if it > presented an honest picture of the lives of diabetics, or produced a picture > the pharmaceutical company wanted shown. > > Well, when Erwin Puts claims to be an independent expert when he reviews > Leica products, but does work of any kind for Leica, he is misleading the > people who make buying decisions on the basis of what they believe to be > independent evaluations. I know that you understand that. > > By the way - how about we try to keep our political disagreements out of our > on-list exchanges. Because you and I know full-well that your repeated > disagreements with me on-list began AFTER you learned during our off-list > exchange that we disagree about the Palestinian/Israeli conflict. > > B. D. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Rob Appleby > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 12:35 PM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: Re: [Leica] Downloadable Erwin Puts Book > > > As far as I can see, he isn't taking anything from Leica, he's given them > the pdf to publish. Good for him. Where's the problem? > > This really is one of your idées fixes, BD. > > -- Rob > > http://www.robertappleby.com > Mobile: (+39) 348 336 7990 > Home: (+39) 059 303436 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 4:19 PM > Subject: RE: [Leica] Downloadable Erwin Puts Book > > > > Steve - and all the others of you who I know will instantly leap to > Erwin's > > "defense:" > > > > There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with Erwin's acting as a consultant to > > Leica or any other company. More power to him. > > > > But I seem to recall that Mr. Puts went to great lengths to proclaim his > > independence from Leica. This is the guy who said he never took ANYTHING > > from Leica. > > > > If you don't see a conflict here, Steve, I sure feel sorry for the > > subscribers to your publications. > > > > And by the way, "slut?" If I whore for anyone Steve, I'll be the first to > > tell my readers I'm getting paid for what I do. > > > > B. D. > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html