Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/10/23

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Subject: Re: [Leica] 90mm lenses -- Summicron or Elmarit?
From: "leirex@access4less.net" <leirex@access4less.net>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:50:26 -0400

Hello Mark,

  Generally speaking, I understand the Serena lenses are inferior to the
later Canon lenses.  Am I right or it all depends?  I have heard that the
85/1.9 lens (either Serena or Canon) is poor in optical performance as the
50/1.2.

Regards,
David

Original Message:
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From: Mark Langer mlanger@ccs.carleton.ca
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 08:33:53 -0400
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us, mlanger@ccs.carleton.ca
Subject: Re: [Leica] 90mm lenses -- Summicron or Elmarit?


While I haven't done rigorous side-by-side comparisons, I regularly shoot
with Canon  (or the earlier Serenar) rangefinder lenses on my M and
screwmount cameras.
Since we seem to be discussing teles, I'll confine myself to the 85mm f2
Serenar, the 100mm f2 Canon, the 100mm f4 Serenar and the 135mm f3.5
Serenar.  The 85mm and
135mm lenses are very good indeed -- very sharp at all but the most open
apertures, with reasonably good contrast, although not what you would get
from a more modern
lens.  The 100mm f2 is remarkable -- one of the better teles that I have
ever used in a package comparable to the 90mm f2 Summicron.  With lens
hood, it seems
enormous and is a big chunk of weight, particularly when mounted on a Leica
IIIc/f/g (or should I say when a Leica IIIc/f/g is mounted on it).  At f2,
one really
does have to use care in focussing this lens though.  Generally, I prefer
the slightly longer reach of the 100mm Canon to the Leica 90mm lenses.  You
can get the
Canon 100mm f2 lens for about $300-$400.  The 85mm and 135mm are commonly
available for around $125-$150.  My favourite of all the Canon teles is the
100mm f4, a
curiously neglected lens whose praises I sing at every opportunity.  Easily
available for less than $100, this renders sharp images that have that
plasticity or
dimensionality that I like so much.  This is one of the great bargain
lenses for Leica that everyone should have.

Mark


>
> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 19:07:04 -0700
> From: "SML" <leirex@access4less.net>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] 90mm lenses -- Summicron or Elmarit?
> Message-ID: <00a801c27a38$e31f9410$881f8ed1@leirex>
> References: <A7530380-E623-11D6-AEA5-003065D6E648@umich.edu>
<3DB5FB97.D277CDFC@markrabiner.com>
>
> Hello,
>
>   So far it seems that no one was mentioning the Canon 100/2 and or
100/3.5
> seriously.  I do have and used both of them to my great surprising
> satisfaction.  I would say that these two are as good as the Nikon 85 and
> 105 if not better.  Some users even claim that the Canon 100/2 is quite a
> lot better than the contemporary 90/2 Summicron.
> Any in-depth but not opinionated opinion on this?
>
> Regards,
> David
>

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