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Subject: Re: [Leica] 1.25 magnifier with 135mm lens
From: "Rafael Alday" <rafaelalday@yahoo.es>
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 23:17:29 +0100
References: <000401c28f43$339fb2c0$0316fea9@ccasony01>

Hi B.D.
I am not a profesional. So I don't have to suffer the pain to carry with 4
cameras. I complete agree with you. The best lens (IMO) for close portrait
(I like) is 85 or 90 lens and 135 is perhaps a little bit long but some
shots can be nice (IMO). Please see:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=947653&size=lg

OOPS! This picture was done with a SLR Spotmatic II 135 mm lens (humor
please).
Rafael
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 9:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] 1.25 magnifier with 135mm lens


> Well, Rafael, it has nothing to do with senses of humor...I don't own a
> 400, and I haven't owned a 200 for years...although I do have a 180 2.8
> that I use a few times a year...By the same token, I don't own a 135 and
> only did own one once in my life - I find it to be  a weirdly in-between
> focal length, a not-quite-useful telephoto that's too long to not be a
> telephoto.
>
> My point had nothing to do with long lenses per se. Rather it had to do
> with the fact that when I shoot with a lens that's longer than "normal"
> I want to see the view through the lens...I want to see precisely how
> the subject is being magnified. So I use 21-28-35- and 50 on Ms, and a
> 60 and 85 on my Nikons...
>
> And, yes, when I am working I carry four or five cameras, but when I am
> just walking around, I rarely take a Nikon or the 90 for the M, because
> in most cases, if I can't shoot it with the 28 or 35, it's usually not
> something I really want to shoot. ;-)
>
> B. D.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Rafael
> Alday
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:26 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] 1.25 magnifier with 135mm lens
>
>
> Oh! B.D. ... Not a very good humor sense there.
> Ok. I am talking about my preferences. I don´t like pictures from 200 or
> 400mm lenses for general purpose (not wild, sports or so). They seem to
> me flat. Just my preferences. You can do what you want.
>
> Rafael
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 9:06 PM
> Subject: RE: [Leica] 1.25 magnifier with 135mm lens
>
>
> > Are we disusing your back, or what makes more sense photographically?
> > How did we get from the question of whether a 135 belongs on an M, to
> > having to carry four cameras around?;-)
> >
> > B. D.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Rafael
> > Alday
> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 2:58 PM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] 1.25 magnifier with 135mm lens
> >
> >
> > I completely disagree with those who think that 90 or 135mm are for
> > SLR. I don't use lenses longer than 135. So, in an small bag, I carry
> > 2 bodies (B&W and Color) and 21, 35, 50, 90 (and  I hope a 135mm in
> > the future). Yes, I could carry 4 bodies... 2 RF (B&W and color films)
>
> > with 21, 35 and 50 lenses and 2 SLR (B&W and color films) with
> > 90,135,200 and 400 lenses. Sorry but my back does not permit that,
> > Rafael
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Daniel Ridings" <daniel.ridings@muspro.uio.no>
> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 8:29 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Leica] 1.25 magnifier with 135mm lens
> >
> >
> > > > when I shoot with a
> > > > longer lens, I want the view through the lens. In fact, I prefer
> > > > the
> >
> > > > reflex for pretty much anything over 50mm, and see the Leica 90s
> > > > as fall backs for when I need near silence when shooting.
> > > >
> > > > But I am well aware that mine very much a minority opinion - on
> > > > this
> >
> > > > list ;-)
> > >
> > > Nope. I'm exactly the same way. I have a 90mm Summicron that stays
> > > home _all_ the time. I walked by a shop and saw a nice Tele-Elmarit
> > > and considered picking it up, but realized I use the nice Nikkor
> > > 85/2.0 when I need that kind of thing anyway ... so I bought the M2
> > > instead. I hate changing lenses so now with a M4 and M2 (the M3 is
> > > just too much of a pain to use since it got "fixed", so it is
> > > retired)
> >
> > > 35 and 50, I'm happy ... with the F3 for 85/135/200 ... and for
> > > those moments I need god's gift to photographers (AE) ... quite
> > > often, actually.
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > >
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