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Subject: Re: [Leica] Use film, or block the panel!
From: Slobodan Dimitrov <sld@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 11:48:03 -0700
References: <761AD82D-9392-11D7-88B0-000393462E70@johnbrownlow.com>

Have you tried using the SB 30 flash with it? It's made for the CP5000
in mind, size and weight wise. It folds down to make a compact little
blob, while on the camera. Best of all, it's way under a C note from the
usual sources.
Slobodan Dimitrov


Johnny Deadman wrote:
> 
> The comparison between LCDs and ground glass is an interesting one. The
> pictures I take with the LCD are substantially more like my LF pictures
> than my 35mm pix, but they have a freedom I have never been able to
> achieve in LF (I've seen some of Tim's LF pix and he is a lot looser
> than I ever was). There is also a slightly alienated quality to
> shooting something using the LCD which is quite difficult to replicate
> when using a direct-vision viewfinder, although I am getting better at
> it. The first picture I took which made me realize there was something
> special about shooting digital via the LCD was this one:
> 
>         http://www.pinkheadedbug.com/paw/pages/week5.html
> 
> I had photographed this spot using the 4x5 camera several times, with
> pitifully poor results. One day just after I bought the CP5000 I had it
> in my cycle pannier as I was cycling to work, and as I passed through
> this spot, I thought to myself, damn, that's the picture. I pulled out
> the digi and framed it on the LCD (it was bright so I could hardly see)
> and when I got to work, uploaded it, and there it was. I can't tell you
> how many sheets of 4x5 I wasted trying to do the same thing.
> 
> There is something close to Eggleston's idea of 'shotgun photography'
> in using a digi with the LCD (for those who don't know, W Eggleston at
> some point gave up looking through the viewfinder and called the
> resulting photographs 'shotgun photos' -- in that they were aimed by
> instinct like a shotgun rather than by eye like a rifle and scope).
> What you discover is that sometimes when you loosen your grip on the
> compositional aspects of the photographic game, rather than the
> compositions becoming weaker, they become stronger, more complex, more
> confounding and confrontational, more troubling even. It certainly
> makes you look through a viewfinder differently afterwards.
> 
> On Friday, May 30, 2003, at 09:30  PM, Tim Atherton wrote:
> 
> >
> >>> He didn't say it wasn't visible, rather you would never have seen the
> >>> composition.
> >>
> >> How is that?  If it's visible on the LCD, it's visible in the
> >> viewfinder...and the composition is identical.
> >>
> >
> > Abandon the engineer stuff for a minute Austin - no one is talking
> > about
> > what is or isn't visible and what is or isn't empirically identical.
> > We are
> > talking about how the eye and brain perceives it as different.
> >
> > Have you ever used a LF camera?
> >
> > If we are talking about a dig cam with an optical viewfinder (as John
> > is)
> > and an LCD screen, the view and composition isn't identical - one is
> > still,
> > to some extent, 3 dimensional and the other is flat - 2D they are
> > different
> >
> > tim
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> 
> pictures:
> http://www.pinkheadedbug.com
> 
> warblog:
> http://www.unintended-consequences.com
> 
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